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DaveNetuser
Feb 06, 2018Aspirant
Connecting a newer Readynas unit to a 31400 possible/feasible?
I am running out of room on my RN31400 and want to add some space as well as upgrade this unit. I want to investigate the expansion options. Would it be possible to use this older unit as an expansio...
DaveNetuser
Feb 08, 2018Aspirant
Larger drives don't use the full space allocated to the drive unless they are matched with the same or larger drives, is that not correct? I don't want to throw out 4- brand new 4 TB WD Re drives, and I just bought 2 of the 4 TB Red Pro's so I am ready to jump right into a 6 bay NAS straight away. I want to increast the size, but now I am looking at the fact that the NAS I have set up is backing up tself on the NAS, so it's doubling down on the sixe of the storage with the exact same data, and I never intended to set it up that way. I just delested the backups of the data, and it deleted the data in both folders! I have no data now other than the snapshots that can be recovered. I really only need to recover the newest data and get the entire thing redone fresh and stop the redundant backup to itself.
I need to stop backing up the NAS data to the NAS, if that makes sense, and I'd have plenty of room.
StephenB
Feb 08, 2018Guru - Experienced User
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Larger drives don't use the full space allocated to the drive unless they are matched with the same or larger drives, is that not correct?
Yes, with XRAID you'd need two larger drives in order to get the full space allocated to the volume.
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but now I am looking at the fact that the NAS I have set up is backing up tself on the NAS
I just deleted the backups of the data, and it deleted the data in both folders!
Something sounds wrong here. I agree it is not useful to back up a NAS share to the same data volume.
But deleting the backup shouldn't delete the source. Can you give us more information the backup job settings?
Note that if you are accessing the NAS with admin credentials you have two paths to each share. One is \\nasname\sharename and the other is \\nasname\volumename\sharename. These are just different ways of navigating to the same folder.
- SandsharkFeb 08, 2018Sensei
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wrote:Larger drives don't use the full space allocated to the drive unless they are matched with the same or larger drives, is that not correct?
Yes, with XRAID you'd need two larger drives in order to get the full space allocated to the volume.
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My interpretation of your question is a little different than StephenB. My answer is "No, all drives do not have to be the same size. You only need two drives to be of equal size to use the full space on them." Same result, put a little differently.
but now I am looking at the fact that the NAS I have set up is backing up tself on the NAS
I just deleted the backups of the data, and it deleted the data in both folders!
Something sounds wrong here. I agree it is not useful to back up a NAS share to the same data volume.
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One possibility is that you accidently deleted the primary, not the backup, and you have the backup job set to delete files deleted on the source. But you would have had to set up the backup job yourself. You seem to be surprised the backup was even there, which makes me wonder if you are really talking about snapshots instead, though I don't know how deleting the snapshot would delete the original.
Note that if you are accessing the NAS with admin credentials you have two paths to each share. One is \\nasname\sharename and the other is \\nasname\volumename\sharename. These are just different ways of navigating to the same folder.
And this is the other possibility. That you weren't looking at a backup at all, but the same data in another way. StephenB lists one possibility of that. The other is that you are looking at a share as a mapped drive and again in "Network" or as a different mapped drive.
As far as the EDA500 goes, it is already discontinued; not "readily available" as you stated. Not only do you not want to have a volume span the main NAS and the EDA, you can't. Balance, and especially scrub, are extremely slow and pretty much lock you out of any share on it while they take place. You already have the 314. Just use it and your new NAS simultaneously. Maybe use the 314 as your backup. While it is possible to mount a share from one NAS to another, so they look like one, it's rarely very useful. It's normally better to just address each NAS independently.
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