ReadyNAS Vault : great but overpriced!

StGeorge wrote:
... In the meantime, I'll use a less expensive (though probably inferior) service.

Well, problem is... From my point of view, there is no similar alternative : i.e. using the easy-to-go Frontview UI for secured Online Backup.
As of today, we're "trapped" to massively costly online service. "Take it or leave it"
Btw, you might go for configuring some Secured FTP, using Linux commands (considering another Online Backup service accepting this kind of protocol, if any?).
But as far I understood it I don't expect to be able to handle Incremental Backups. Same goes for the FTP Backup feature from Frontview, btw. But I might be wrong here (quite limited knowledge on FTP capabilities)...

I just wanted to throw my view in as well.
Completely, agree completely overpriced.
Look at Jungle Disk, which utilises Amazon's S3, it's $0.18 per GB per month, plus $2 per month for Jungle Disk's interface with the S3 service.
Admittedly, there's an upload cost of $0.17 per GB but after the initial upload the costs of this will drop right down (unless you're producing 100's of GB of data a month).
I too use Carbonite, it's maybe a bit slow but the price is in a COMPLETELY different range to the ReadyNAS Vault.
Another option to consider is something like CrashPlan which lets you backup to a remote location, a friend, family member e.t.c I know that using it with the NAS is probably not possible but again the cost issue just doesn't compare!

As involuntary IT manager of a firm of architects I am concerned about offsite storage but I could receive a completely bespoke service that backups incrementally very night and delivers a replacement HDD with ALL of our 800GB data on it within 24 hours should we suffer major loss. All of this service would cost me less than the Readynas solution of 800GB! Now that is obscene!

So, until the pricign drops radically, we won't be using this long awaited, much anticipated, but ultimately flawed, service.

I have to agree, the current pricing model will keep me from using the Vault service.

My conclution is that this service is way too expensive for me as a personal NAS owner.
At the beginning I thought the price was for TB, but sadly this is not the case. I may tre to run elephantdrive from my Mac instead where data size is unlimited. Will be waiting for a cheaper alternative.

I'll add my voice to the chorus. I set up a NV+ for a small survey firm in my town. They have something like 16 GB of data stored. Very happy with the product. To accomplish online backup for them, I set up the backup tool in FrontView to backup all data to a folder on the hard drive of one of their computers, with nightly incremental backups. Then we setup Carbonite on that computer. For $50 per year, the files are backed up offsite nightly. Granted the backups aren't instant, they do happen nightly, but it ultimately means I can bring them back to where they were no more than a day earlier should they suffer a major loss.

Here at my own employer, I have about 300 GB of data on our ReadyNAS 1100. I totaled it up and Vault would cost me $150/month at least. I am about to decommission an old desktop box with a big hard drive in it to function as a "Carbonite Server" box. There's no way they can expect to please customers with these prices.

Just so people are aware of it, you can actually use MozyPro which can be configured to backup network devices, and the pricing there is similar to the pricing readynas appears to be offering.

For 4GB per month, i am paying $5.95.

I have to agree though that this is all way too overpriced. In fact I need to get my act together and cancel MozyPro. I was just going to go buy and attach a USB based drive and just back up my files weekly and store the drive elsewhere. Just feels so much more economical.

From my point of view, I think it is important to keep in mind one of the key feature of ReadyNAS Vault, in order to keep comparisons on the fair side :
You keep your files secured directly from the ReadyNAS.
Meaning you don't have to maintain your computer ON, nor pay extras for eventually specific "Pro" offers (to backup local networked devices).
Meaning you save energy ($!) by letting your low-power consumption ReadyNAS doing the job, rather than having a PC consumming several hundred watts. Even more important when considering the several days needed to get your gigs of data backed up on the cloud due to low-to-moderate uplink bandwidth.
An Online Backup solution as implemented into the ReadyNAS is a set-and-forget solution, expected to be reliable due to controlled environement (developed/tested by Netgear) and this is really nice.

BUT still... ReadyNAS Vault offer prices are killing the story without any consideration of value. Or, is this offer dedicated to Pro/Corporate market?
Anyhow, the adoption rate will remain very very low.

I'm actually using a 1TB ioSafe Solo for backing up at home now. Waterproof and fireproof.

Without unlimited storage for home users I don't see this service taking off. Too many other options out there.

Let see :
- Using the ReadyNAS Vault : $500+ / month for 1 TB storage space = $6K/year.
- Loaning a dedicated server and using rsync : around $110 / month for 1 TB = $1.3K/year

This dedicated server solution is a bit pricey, isn't it? :rofl: