ReadyNAS Vault : great but overpriced!

StGeorge wrote:
What Netgear really needs to do is sell Vault to someone who can run it more effectively. Netgear is a hardware manufacturer, not a service company- they need to get out of that business.

It's run by Elephantdrive.

TimSee wrote:
claykin wrote: I was disappointed to learn the Duo doesn't support rsync over SSH so that's not really a viable alternative either. :(

http://readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=29688 :-)

OK- so I can use Vault to backup my 4-500gb nas for about $1,400 (/yr) or I can back it up to egnyte for less than half that price. So I'm still trying to understand Vault's pricing....? Can anyone help me with that?


...probably not....

and unfortunately isn't even "great". The software has a number of serious deficiencies - such as not being able to control amount of history held and inconsistent log info. I wouldn't mind paying a bit over the odds for good software that worked directly off the NAS, but not a lot more money for a barely functional capability.

jet11x wrote:
and unfortunately isn't even "great". The software has a number of serious deficiencies - such as not being able to control amount of history held and inconsistent log info. I wouldn't mind paying a bit over the odds for good software that worked directly off the NAS, but not a lot more money for a barely functional capability.

I assume you're running the latest Vault addon?

After an extended trial I stopped using Vault in July - at that point it was the latest plugin. Vault support had worked with me on some of the problems including trying a new plugin. This helped, but there were still outstanding issues. My current solution is synching files to my PC and using Mozy - an over-complex solution to my mind, but at least cost effective and the Mozy software works well and has better security.

My price point is about $1 / gb for the year. I'd be happy with one backup / month (so the vendor's bandwidth isn't tied up all the time). In a world where you can buy a 1TB drive for under $60 retail, the cost to run it along with the fixed overhead of adequate security etc..., that price point would sure seem to me like it would provide a satisfactory return to investors. Perhaps I should go into that business?

C'mon folks- there's a huge market out here waiting for pricing to get real.

I see the 'advice' to "Backup your data" then "Install this" or "Swap the drive" or ...

My question is if I can't afford ReadyNas Vault and the on-line sites are too slow on my internet connection - other than buying another hard drive (that will eventually fail) what other backup media is practical for 1 TB + backup? Tape is old tech, unreliable and cartridges deteriorate with age, so tape is not an answer. What do other folks here use?

Thanks,

great idea.. i guess the homebrew version would be to just get another unit and set up a remote rsync!

I just purchased a 250gb encrypted stand alone usb drive. My plan is to take the 75gb+ (and growing ever larger) section of my duo that is critical to us (pictures / music / various other backup folders), throw a copy of it all onto that drive, and store it off site someplace. My plan is to update it about every quarter year, which will be fine for us.

This is where I believe Netgear could really shine- they could offer the 'vault' type service to their ever growing homeowner/home user market more inexpensively if you agreed to only update the backup 4-8 times/yr (which would reduce the bandwidth needs and would ensure that they are not cannibalizing their buisness customer accounts). Sadly, they continue to price that service as though we are all business customers and need to backup every day or every week.