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tkernaghan
Oct 27, 2019Tutor
Slow internet speed
I have a ReadyNAS 312 and currently have the ReadyCloud app v1.19 running on my system. I am the only user of the ReadyNAS and use it for backup and storage. When the app is indexing or uploading f...
StephenB
Oct 30, 2019Guru - Experienced User
tkernaghan wrote:
Sorry for my typo regarding Mbps vs MBps. I have 100 up and down via Google Fiber and what I typed should have been obvious rather than you, again, essentially calling me an idiot. Seriously?!
Take a breath. I did not call you an idiot or say anything disrespectful in my posts. But I have no idea of your setup or your issue other than what you post. FWIW, I also have no idea what you know about networking and what you don't know. I get that you are very frustrated. But if we don't have the right information, then we aren't likely to help you. The more we guess what you meant to say, the more likely we are to draw false conclusions.
I knew you had a Google router, but many people include switches and other equipment on their home network. Mesh routers can also create bandwidth limits on the link layer, and I don't know enough about the Google service to know if they include their mesh Google Wifi system or not.
Your 100 mbit up/down link from Google isn't relevant if the congestion problem is local. If your screen shots were taken with wired ethernet then there is evidence in them that suggests that your surface link speed isn't gigabit as it should be. Plus normally the ReadyCloud app shouldn't be sending the data through the fiber link when you are at home - it is designed to send the data directly to the NAS - again suggesting that the problem is in fact local. schumaku gave you a way to check if the data transfer is local or routed through the cloud.
And if the traffic is local, then ReadyCloud should be able to use more bandwidth in task manager when you are using gigabit ethernet - not less. And you should still be able to connect to the internet from the surface.
You still haven't confirmed the link speeds on the Surface or on the NAS, and I don't know if your task manager screen shots were taken with a wireless connection or a wired gigabit. I am also unclear as to whether "up to date Cat 5" means Cat 5e or something else.
One other thing that would help is if you could measure the throughput between the surface and the NAS (both when the surface is wired, and when it is not). There is a tool called NasTester ( http://www.808.dk/?code-csharp-nas-performance ) that is good for this, as it is freely available and allows us to compare the results with our own systems.
As schumaku says, you aren't talking to anyone from Netgear here. This is a community forum (moderated by Netgear). We are Netgear users, not paid support. If you want paid support, then you can get that from my.netgear.com.
schumaku
Oct 30, 2019Guru - Experienced User
Some insight on the Windwos 10 wireless connection - specifically the negotiated PHY link speed (like receive and transmit rates, signal level, ...) - can be found from the shell (cmd) running "netsh wlan show interfaces". Unfortunately, this information was stripped from some GUI network properties on newer WIndows 10 builds.
C:\>netsh wlan show interfaces There is 1 interface on the system: Name : Wi-Fi Description : Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 GUID : <snip) Physical address : f4:96:34:YY:YY:YY State : connected SSID : whatever BSSID : XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX Network type : Infrastructure Radio type : 802.11ac Authentication : WPA2-Personal Cipher : CCMP Connection mode : Profile Channel : 36 Receive rate (Mbps) : 650 Transmit rate (Mbps) : 650 Signal : 82% Profile : [whatever]
- tkernaghanNov 05, 2019Tutor
from my system:
There is 1 interface on the system:
Name : Wi-Fi
Description : Marvell AVASTAR Wireless-AC Network Controller
GUID : a4672fee-51c7-45a1-b60d-8188231a8226
Physical address : c4:9d:ed:03:ae:3b
State : connected
SSID : RTK50GHz
BSSID : 7c:d9:5c:02:89:c3
Network type : Infrastructure
Radio type : 802.11ac
Authentication : WPA2-Personal
Cipher : CCMP
Connection mode : Auto Connect
Channel : 149
Receive rate (Mbps) : 585
Transmit rate (Mbps) : 585
Signal : 99%
Profile : RTK50GHzHosted network status : Not available
- tkernaghanNov 05, 2019Tutor
With ReadyCloud running and "uploading" and connected locally. Surface in exact same spot, so not sure why signal is 94% versus 99% previously.
There is 1 interface on the system:
Name : Wi-Fi
Description : Marvell AVASTAR Wireless-AC Network Controller
GUID : a4672fee-51c7-45a1-b60d-8188231a8226
Physical address : c4:9d:ed:03:ae:3b
State : connected
SSID : RTK50GHz
BSSID : 7c:d9:5c:02:89:c3
Network type : Infrastructure
Radio type : 802.11ac
Authentication : WPA2-Personal
Cipher : CCMP
Connection mode : Auto Connect
Channel : 149
Receive rate (Mbps) : 81
Transmit rate (Mbps) : 81
Signal : 94%
Profile : RTK50GHzHosted network status : Not available
- schumakuNov 06, 2019Guru - Experienced User
So your wireless connection does certainly allow some 400 Mb/s up and down, while the wired Ethernet does allow 100% reliabe 1000 Mb/s up and down. With the ReadyNAS on the same [W]LAN and the same location (correct?) does flow direct between your Surface and the ReadyNAS - not over the Internet, so it does not take any up-/down- bandwidth from the Internet connection.
However, the wireless (and "Internet" connection) problem does start here:
tkernaghan wrote:With ReadyCloud running and "uploading" and connected locally. Surface in exact same spot, so not sure why signal is 94% versus 99% previously.
There is 1 interface on the system:
Name : Wi-Fi
Description : Marvell AVASTAR Wireless-AC Network Controller
...
Receive rate (Mbps) : 81
Transmit rate (Mbps) : 81
Signal : 94%I would not care much about the signal level (or quality). Much more concerning here is the fact that the wireless link PHY speed does drop to 81 Mb/s only - this is certainly a problem. But this is something Microsoft and Google should look into. It does not make any sense that a heavy used wireless link - by a single device (mainly the Surface along probably the single mobile phone) - does fall back.
How the "same" problem appears while using the Gigabit Ethernet connection is (without intense troubleshooting) beyond me. Here again, some throughout should not have such a heavy impact that other connections over the same link and local IP stack. This does move the suspect issue away from the Surface towards the Google Fiber router.
A normal network connection with a usual IP stack does - as there is no QoS or other prioritization - allow to surf the Internet concurrently (or use other network connections on the LAN) while an application like ReadyCloud is making heavy use of the bandwidth.
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