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stde
Dec 12, 2015Follower
1GB Memory for ReadyNAS NV - original Infrant model
I just recently bought one of these with 4 1tb HDD's, and while I was awaiting delivery saw this on ebay "Crucial CT12864X335.16FFY (1GB DDR PC2700 333MHz 200-pin SO DIMM) RAM Module" for just £18. ...
cloudstore
Apr 09, 2016Aspirant
Letting you know that I still run an NV+ v1.
I have 4x2TB drives it in.
Well made device that has been running flawlessly for many years.
Running Raidiator 4.1.1.4 [1.00a043]
I use Macs and ReadyNAS is one of the few that is 100% compatible with native protocols.
Still work perfect with the latesr version os Mac OS X 10.11
markgca
Apr 13, 2016Guide
im still running a NV+ v1 with 4x 750gb Seagate Barracuda Enterprise drives.
it has been running non stop since new, late 2007.
Had to replace the psu once, and a hard drive died a couple weeks ago, but thats it.
Its used only for backups
Running RAIDiator 4.1.15-T3
i will say though that im getting ready to retire it. im in the process of bringing up some new equipment and this will be turned off when that is completed, likely in the next few months,
figure i got my money out of it....
- BrianL2Apr 13, 2016NETGEAR Employee Retired
Hi markgca,
Thank you for sharing in the community and we appreciate the good things you said about your ReadyNAS NV+ system.
I hope you that you're looking at our new OS 6 series as a primary option in replacing your old system.
Kind regards,
BrianL
NETGEAR Community Team- markgcaApr 13, 2016Guide
sorry but im not looking at OS 6 series.
i own three readynas products; the NV+, a ReadyNAS Business 6, and ReadyNAS Pro 6. they all perform well. i was very happy with them.
but it felt like you abandoned us when you came out with the new OS6 firmware, saying it wouldnt run on the old systems, when we all know it would, at least on the Pro 6. so the decision was; kill the warranty and risk data loss by installing unsupported firmware, or continue along with limited functioning eol firmware. Not a great choice when you have multiple units, still under warranty.
Also the snapshot sizing function: necessary in a production environment, but limited/disabled in a firmware update, and every subesequent update said it would be enabled in a future release. But it wasnt, except in the new OS6 which wasnt supported on these units. So we are stuck at 10GB snapshot which is woefully inadequate for these types of products. I run out of snapshot space every time i try to back up, making this 'feature' unusable at the fixed size of 10gb.
so my three year old ReadyNAS pro 6 was a dead product before the five year warranty was even up. Ditto for my four year old ReadyNAS 6 Business. Not what i expected when i purchased them.
i think you had the best hardware product out there, and for years i thought the best support as well, but when the infrant guys all left something went wrong.
sorry, i know this isnt what you expected to hear, but you asked.
- mdgm-ntgrApr 14, 2016NETGEAR Employee Retired
Thanks for the feedback.
I understand your frustration with the EOL. It is not a decision we took lightly. If you look at competitor products you will see similar disappointment expressed about decisions to EOL those. We are not alone in this.The NV+ (v1) is essentially pretty much the same as a product we released back in 2006 and similar to models dating back to the earliest ones from 2004. We released 4.1.14 for these units in 2014. About 10 years of firmware updates is quite a long time.
The Pro Business was released back in 2008 and it continued to receive all the firmware updates for 4.2.x after it was discontinued and it wasn't feature crippled in any way. It runs the latest 4.2.x firmware 4.2.28 which we released in November 2015.
Whilst it's true that you can run OS6 on legacy 64-bit systems, here are a few examples of things we factored into our decision not to support running it on legacy hardware (there are many more):- There is no way to simply upgrade to OS6 leaving the data in place. You would need to backup your data first. Now everyone should backup data if they value it, but a lot of users don't, and if they ignored warnings before doing such an upgrade this may lead to data loss.
- Even if we supported the upgrade we would still have needed to have provided some 4.2.x maintenance updates for these models for some time as not everyone is willing to take their system offline for long enough to do a factory reset and restore from backup in order to run a new OS. Considering the large number of 64-bit 4.2.x models this would have required a significant amount of resources.
- Some 4.2.x models can't run OS6 (those with 32-bit CPUs. In the desktop line the NVX and NVX Pioneer had a 32-bit CPU, in rackmount the 2100v1 and the 1500).
- Legacy desktop ReadyNAS only have 1GB RAM. All our OS6 x86_64 hardware has at least 2GB RAM. We don't support 3rd party memory upgrades and whilst 1GB RAM should be enough users are more likely to find it isn't enough for them than with 2GB RAM.
For business class RAIDiator-x86 4.2.x systems the snapshot size can be set during RAIDar when doing a factory default (wipes all data, settings, everything). During the 10 minute countdown you can go into RAIDar, click setup and choose the snapshot size you want. What is disabled is the ability to resize it without needing to do a factory reset. The Online Filesystem Check uses a snapshot and you can use a snapshot for other purposes too.
If you write more to the NAS than the snapshot space then it will be automatically invalidated. So the key thing is to get your snapshot to exist at a time when minimal writes are being made to the NAS. If you are backing up lots of data to the NAS and trying to have a snapshot exist at the same time you are not using the snapshot feature how it is designed.
On OS6 snapshots are very different. You don't have a single snapshot and you don't have dedicated space for snapshots. With OS6 you can have an unlimited number of snapshots. The less space that is used by current data, the more space you have available for snapshots.
What some users have done is got a new OS6 NAS, used that as their primary and put OS6 on their legacy NAS (e.g. Pro Business Edition, Pro 6) and use that as a backup NAS.
We still have some Infrant guys here. It is quite a long while now since we bought Infrant. In just over a year it will be 10 years since the acquisition.
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