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starbuck_
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Nov 18, 2013

3TB or 4TB HDD recommendation for Readynas RN516

Hi, I am thinking of upgrading my old NV+ V1 for a while.

Now that the RN516 is getting cheaper I think I will buy the RN516 diskless version in 2 or 3 months.

But at the moment I have one problem. I don't know which harddrive I should choose for the NAS.

Do you have any recommendation for a 3TB or 4TB drive for the RN516 unit?

First I would go with the WD Red Series but then I read about the high load cycles count and reallocated sectors count.

So it's not a good idea to buy these drives. :(

What about the Hitachis? Or Seagate (I also had also reallocated sector issues with 1TB Seagates in my old NV+)?

Any recommendations? It's a tough decision to find the right drive.

best regards
starbuck

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  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired
    Maybe the SeaGate 4TB NAS drive or one of the Hitachi options.
  • Yes I think the Seagate 4TB NAS drive ST4000VN000 is a good choice.

    According to the datasheet:

    Reliability
    Load/Unload 600.000 cycles should be a good value

    Temperature during operation is 34°C which is also good I think.

    But I am a bit confused about the fact the drive should be used in an 1-5 bay NAS System?

    Number of Drive Bays Supported
    1 to 5

    Does that mean they did not guarantee a proper operation of the drive in a 6 bay NAS? What about the Netgear support then?

    Just another quick offtopic question: How do I calculate the real available free disk space in the NAS?
    (6 bay NAS, 4TB hard disks with single redundancy and the same with dual redundancy with two drives for redundancy )

    Does that mean:

    1) I have 5x 4TB = 20TB free space available and 1x 4TB for redundancy

    2) I have 4x 4TB = 16TB free space available and 2x 4TB for redundancy ?

    Is this assumption correct?

    Is it possible to start with single redundancy and later convert/switch to dual redundancy without data loss?
    Or do I need to backup the data first and then switch to dual redundancy and then copy the data back to the NAS?
    If "online conversion" works will I loose free disk space for conversion? Or do I need to do a factory reset and start from scratch?
  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired
    starbuck_ wrote:

    Does that mean they did not guarantee a proper operation of the drive in a 6 bay NAS? What about the Netgear support then?

    If it's on the compatibility list it should work fine. The disks might be slightly more prone to failure than in a 5-bay NAS but they're still much cheaper than the better alternative: enterprise disks.
    starbuck_ wrote:

    Is this assumption correct?

    Yes, but disk manufacturers measure using TBs whereas the NAS uses TiB. So a 1TB disk is 931 (1024/1024^4*1000^4) GiB. Also there are some overheads.
    starbuck_ wrote:

    Is it possible to start with single redundancy and later convert/switch to dual redundancy without data loss?

    Not at this time. Even if it does become possible it would likely require having an empty drive bay and checking a checkbox in the Dashboard before putting a disk in the empty slot.
    starbuck_ wrote:

    Or do I need to backup the data first and then switch to dual redundancy and then copy the data back to the NAS?

    Yes
  • Thank you for the information. So I think it's better to start with dual redundancy from start for safety reasons.
    And also not to forget backup the data on a regular basis as well.
  • I'd avoid the Wd red drives ( 3 or 4 tb) until the load cycle count issue is resolved. Although the 3 tb version is reported to have appropriate idle settings, it seems newer versions may have the lcc issue.
    I've just received a refund from Wd on the basis that the disks were not fit for purpose as described in the product marketing.
    The seagate Nas drives are ok so far but only a month or so of use in a 316.

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