I mean really, why? is it not confusing enough with 2+ sparc models and 9 x86 desktop models, that a 3rd architecture, which I am assuming will be requiring different addons and radiators releases is needed?sorry, it's great that you can offer a very low price point, but I am really disappointed in the further fracturing of development and product resources.The duo/nv+ should have been discontinued as soon as the ultra lines were released and all development focused on x86 and improving frontview and bringing raidator up to a more current debian release. :? :cry:

I was initially surprised too.However I know plenty of people who aren't passionate about network storage but might be willing to get some if it's reliable and cheap. This is demonstrated in that the Duo and NV+ are popular products. The Intel platform is great but too pricey for these users.As for what lies ahead yoh-dah and chirpah have said on Twitter that RAIDiator 5 won't be coming to the Sparc boxes. Chirpa has added no ETA for x86.yoh-dah's also said the RAID format is different so you can't migrate from another ReadyNAS platform to ARM or vice versa.More info will likely be coming over the next few days or weeks as more people get their hands on the new boxes.As a beta tester of the Duo v2, I must say that I'm very impressed with the device (though I still wish it had a display on the front). It supports 3TB drives (GPT and 4k sectors), Windows 7 and Mac OS X Lion from it's very first firmware release. A great NAS device for those who want cheap, reliable high capacity network storage.

One should also consider that the release of the Duo v2 allows NetGear to kill off the Stora (see http://www.wegotserved.com/2011/11/09/netgear-refreshes-entry-level-readynas-duo-nv/) so I think it will actually reduce fracturing of development and lead to greater efficiency.Of course the Stora is developed by a completely separate team, but NetGear having a single storage brand makes a lot of sense.

mdgm wrote:yoh-dah's also said the RAID format is different so you can't migrate from another ReadyNAS platform to ARM or vice versa.Awesome! Can't wait for the dozens of future threads on how to migrate from duo2/nv+2 to ultra/pro!More info will likely be coming over the next few days or weeks as more people get their hands on the new boxes.Sure but none of that will change the fact that development resources are now split across 3 architectures, assuming this is not the death blow to sparc devel. And while I'm sure we all expect sparc support to stop eventually, it still leaves resources split between ARM/x86.It supports 3TB drives (GPT and 4k sectors), Windows 7 and Mac OS X Lion from it's very first firmware release.well that should be a given, if it didn't it would be dead in the water.A great NAS device for those who want cheap, reliable high capacity network storage.Well no doubt they will sell a ton at those prices, and then eventually we will hear all the complaints about how crippled they are compared to the other devices and not directly migratable to x86 devices or compatible with x86 addons. /pity the addon devs having yet another arch to support (or not support).But then again, maybe we are wrong thinking that x86 is the future, perhaps ARM will take over all the high end devices as well.. :rofl:

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mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired
Nov 10, 2011
17 hours ago yoh-dah responded to a tweet about this (http://twitter.com/#!/yohdah/status/134301467052998657)

and about 12 hours ago on Google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/107689211378624727495/posts/6C7cxdLcRiH
PapaBear1
Apprentice
Nov 10, 2011
I realize it's far too late, but I wish they had chosen a different product name. We will not having to always ask an OP if his NV+ is v1 or v2 (same with the Duo). If they had chosen something like Entre2 and Entre4 then it would have been in line with the current Ultra/Pro names. I can see someone trying to download 4.1.10 and install it on an NV+ v2 and wondering why it is all messed up, or trying to install 5.3.4 on a Duo v1.
sphardy1
Apprentice
Nov 10, 2011
PapaBear wrote:
I realize it's far too late, but I wish they had chosen a different product name.

This point was made on day 1 of the beta test...

PapaBear wrote:
I realize it's far too late, but I wish they had chosen a different product name.

maxblack

Aspirant

Nov 10, 2011

mdgm wrote:
maxblack wrote:
TeknoJnky wrote:
The duo/nv+ should have been discontinued as soon as the ultra lines were released...
Sure, but it's cheap to build, and (as evidenced here) they DON'T support it anymore so aren't spending anything there either.
Duo and NV+ v1 are still supported. They recently received a firmware update 4.1.8... There's also still plenty of help available on the forum.

I have used both "official" support which didn't help me, and tried to get advice here about my drive spinup problems to no responses at all. That's what I was referring to when I said "they DON'T support it anymore".

I can understand that there is burnout with "the old stuff", but some of us have become disenchanted with Netgear.

TeknoJnky
Hero
Nov 10, 2011
sphardy wrote:
PapaBear wrote:
I realize it's far too late, but I wish they had chosen a different product name.

This point was made on day 1 of the beta test...

I thought they would have remembered the lesson from the whole 'pioneer' debacle.
chirpa
Luminary
Nov 10, 2011
PapaBear wrote:
I wish they had chosen a different product name. We will not having to always ask an OP if his NV+ is v1 or v2 (same with the Duo).
I'm with ya, but the powers above overrode it.
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired
Nov 11, 2011
I know it's a small sample at the moment, but by far the most popular answer to the poll on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/questions/10150353524617967) regarding what NAS people currently own is the Duo/NV+ (v1) which could perhaps indicate that lots of people want a good NAS on a tight budget. Admittedly these products have been around for a while now, so it's impossible to tell how many responses are from recent purchasers.
PapaBear1
Apprentice
Nov 13, 2011
It is a very good and reliable product. My trusty old NV+ is still silently maintaining my essential backup, still with the original "weak" PSU it came with amost 4 1/2 years ago. This move addresses two of it major limitations - speed and the 2TB drive limitation. This also answers why the unit was discontinued after the introduction of the Ultras a year ago - there is still a market and they are now addressing that need.
gibxxi
Guide
Nov 18, 2011
Well I for one might go for one of these for backup duties if nothing else. I sold my Duo to a close friend when I bought the Ultra. I've since regretted that decision. So at some point down the line I may be tempted. The feature-set is not as advanced as the Ultra line, but seeing as I have no use for NFS / iSCSI at this time anyway, a Duo v.2 would be a perfect answer for my "critical" backup files.

Only slight problem for me is only have a single power outlet near my main PC, an APC BackUPS ES-700, and no free sockets on it to plug the thing into, lol.

;)
fbmachines
Guide
Nov 18, 2011
gibxxi wrote:

Only slight problem for me is only have a single power outlet near my main PC, an APC BackUPS ES-700, and no free sockets on it to plug the thing into, lol.

;)

Meet the octopus (well, half of an octopus to be technically correct)...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000083KI ... N0REDREQPI

Or a standard power strip will work too.

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