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niallryan
Jul 16, 2024Guide
Can I connect directly my MacBook Pro to NAS
Hi all, I am looking to see if it is possible to connect my MacBook Pro directly to my ReadyNAS Ultra 6 which would allow me to transfer TB's of files quickly rather than going through the network. ...
StephenB
Jul 19, 2024Guru - Experienced User
niallryan wrote:
There is also an outdoor cable running under ground from the games room to the house (this was the original cabling when the games room was being built) and I believe this is Cat5/5e - so I shall investigate to ensure that that cable is not connected to anything on the network otherwise that would be a conflict straight off.
Cat 5e should be ok, but cat 5 would not be, especially given the distance. You said 400-900 mbs when running speedtest over the mesh.
What speedtest results are you seeing when you connect the Macbook with ethernet (turning it's wifi off)?
Also, is the Deco mesh using ethernet for the backhaul? Or is the Deco using wifi for the backhaul?
niallryan
Jul 20, 2024Guide
Cat 5e should be ok, but cat 5 would not be, especially given the distance.
I have to make that this is not in play as it would create a conflict as I have a cat 6e cable running from the house along the wall to the games room connected to the switch and there is a cat 5e cable going from the switch in the family room (as I call it) where my Mac mini is to the switch up in the attic. I know it ay sound complicated the way I have it mapped out but it was to get cabling around the house and ports available in some rooms in the house as the kids/young adults have Macs for college along with my office which has iMacs and so on.
What speedtest results are you seeing when you connect the Macbook with ethernet (turning it's wifi off)?
I did a speediest just there on the Mac mini in the family room as that is connected to a switch and getting between 900mb and 1.2gb
Also, is the Deco mesh using ethernet for the backhaul? Or is the Deco using wifi for the backhaul?
The Deco's are as follows : Main Deco is on ground floor connected to router by ethernet.
Deco 2 is on 1st floor (Office side) connected to Main Deco by wifi and Deco 3 is also on 1st floor on other side connected to main deco by wifi. The Third floor (attic converted) does get wifi at a reasonable speed of around 500mb/s
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- StephenBJul 20, 2024Guru - Experienced User
niallryan wrote:
What speedtest results are you seeing when you connect the Macbook with ethernet (turning it's wifi off)?
I did a speediest just there on the Mac mini in the family room as that is connected to a switch and getting between 900mb and 1.2gb
These results all tell us that your network is not "too busy". One way to isolate the problem is to try running speedtests over ethernet at various locations. That should make it possible to find the ethernet link that is failing (which seems the most likely cause).
It has to be on the path between the MacBook Pro and the NAS. Running speedtest on that MacBook using ethernet would let us see if the problem is also on the path between that MacBook and your router.
Measuring the transfer speed between the Mac Mini and the NAS might also be useful in isolating the problem.
niallryan wrote:
Cat 5e should be ok, but cat 5 would not be, especially given the distance.I have to make that this is not in play as it would create a conflict as I have a cat 6e cable running from the house along the wall to the games room connected to the switch and there is a cat 5e cable going from the switch in the family room (as I call it) where my Mac mini is to the switch up in the attic.
You do need to avoid any loops. There should only be one path that goes between any two switches (including indirect paths through other switches).
Are any of your switches "smart" or "managed" switches? If one or more have web interfaces, that could also help figure out what is going on.
- StephenBJul 20, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Just to follow up - your network is pretty complicated, and I am having trouble visualizing the ethernet topology.
It'd be helpful if you could sketch out a rough diagram, showing just the router and switches. Show how those switches are interconnected, the total port count on the switch, and how many ports are free. Also show what room they are in.
Also, I'd like to review some basic principles (I apologize in advance if these are too basic)...
The ideal ethernet architecture for you would be to have one central switch that has enough ports to directly connect to every ethernet client you have. This switch would be directly connected to one of your router LAN ports. With this architecture, every pair of devices on your network can communicate at wire speed with no congestion. That is because the backplane of the switch has enough capacity to carry that much traffic. For instance, a 16 port gigabit switch will normally have a 32 gpbs backplane, so it can handle 1 gigabit per second in each direction on all ports simultaneously.
So over time you should aim to migrate your network set up to something reasonably close to this ideal.
There usually are some rooms where there are simply too many client devices for a single central switch to be practical. In those rooms you deploy satellite switches so you can get enough client connections. Those satellites connect directly to the central switch, and not to other satellites.
The bandwidth between a satellite and the main switch is then shared by all the clients connected to the satellite. The clients can connect to any device connected to the same satellite with no congestion, but there can be congestion when those clients are connecting to other local network devices. So ideally these clients wouldn't all be in use simultaneously (or wouldn't need the full gigabit). Note that 4K streaming uses 25 mbps or less - so streaming devices don't require as much bandwidth as many people think.
The central switch + room satellites design creates a "hub and spoke" topology. Servers (including the NAS) should be connected directly to the central switch. If you are buying new switches, then a central switch with some multigig ports would be good. Then the link to multigig satellites would be 2-10 gig, which would reduce the chance of congestion to/from the satellites. Note the multigig links do need to be cat-6.
I'd need the topology diagram of your current setup to see how closely it matches the hub and spoke diagram architecture. One thing I am thinking is that since you have two cables going to the game room, it might be possible to use one of those cables to connect the NAS directly to your router (or a switch connected to your router). That of course assumes the unused cable is cat 5e.
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