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janpeter1
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Feb 10, 2021
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Choice of internal 8TB disk for RN314 that hold for the next NAS...

Hi

I have had RND314 for 5.5 years now with little troubles.

It has been going 07-21 5 days a week and occasionally in weekends

and served our home-office very well. No big problem, so far.

But I have been active on the forum about various quesetions.

 

Now I consider to upgarde two internal RAID-disks from 4 to 8 TB.

After all both the NAS and these original disks are coming of age.

I have talked with Netgear support and they see no problem to do the upgrade

of this old NAS and I have the official list of compatible disks.

 

The question is more that I hope thes new disks should serve another 5 years

and I may need to change NAS within a year or two. Then I want to reasonably ensure

that these new disks I plant to buy now do work for the next NAS.

 

My requirements of speed are small. We need occasionally to run videos

from the NAS, but can also download to client for better performance. 

Consider to move more of my CDs to the NAS and play them over the 

local network, but not necessarily play them from the NAS since that

requires higher performaces CPU. I use Roonlab and have a computer 

as server instead.

 

Is it possible to get som advice how to go about this investment in 8 TB 

internal disks?

 

I havde considered RND424 but it coming of age. And I wonder what new models

Netgear have in preparation. And I also need to look at the alternative, I guess.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • WD Red Plus (WD80EFAX) and Seagate Ironwolf (ST8000VN0022) are both reasonable options. 

     

    You will need to use the mounting screws for the Ironwolf, as it doesn't have the center side hole which is used by the tool-less plastic bracket.  (You'll also need to remove the bracket).  The bottom screw holes on the drive tray won't all align with the holes on the Ironwolf, but the ones that do align will be enough to secure the drive.

     

    The WD80EFAX is compatible with the tool-less bracket, which is more convenient.  

     

    If you want enterprise class, then you can go with any enterprise class SATA drive.  They should all work fine (whether on the HCL or not).  Although they do have a longer warranty, it's not much data out there that says they last longer.  Backblaze found they didn't - though they published that quite a while ago (2013), and drive technology has certainly changed since then.

     

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  • WD Red Plus (WD80EFAX) and Seagate Ironwolf (ST8000VN0022) are both reasonable options. 

     

    You will need to use the mounting screws for the Ironwolf, as it doesn't have the center side hole which is used by the tool-less plastic bracket.  (You'll also need to remove the bracket).  The bottom screw holes on the drive tray won't all align with the holes on the Ironwolf, but the ones that do align will be enough to secure the drive.

     

    The WD80EFAX is compatible with the tool-less bracket, which is more convenient.  

     

    If you want enterprise class, then you can go with any enterprise class SATA drive.  They should all work fine (whether on the HCL or not).  Although they do have a longer warranty, it's not much data out there that says they last longer.  Backblaze found they didn't - though they published that quite a while ago (2013), and drive technology has certainly changed since then.

     

    • Sandshark's avatar
      Sandshark
      Sensei

      For that use, the 314 will probably last quite a while.  Your CPU isn't that powerful, but you really don't need one for your use,  The power brick might not last as long as the rest, but ReadyNAS really have quite a reputation of lasting very long.  People come here all the time with 10+ year old NAS they just bought on eBay that work fine -- they just need advice on using them.  There are always a few that have issues, but it's not common.  You just see more problems in a forum like this than reports of "all is well after xx years".  Some think the power supplies don't last as long as they should, but most of them would never expect a PC power supply to last that long (the PC would have been long retired), so they just don't have realistic expectations.

       

      Did you install all the drives simultaneously, or in stages?  If all at once, there is a bigger risk that a failure of one will quickly become a failure of two both because they are the same age and because the re-sync with the first replacement drive could be the final blow for another.  Hard drive failures are hard to predict, as they can occur without any SMART warning.  But you should definitely watch the SMART status and not rely exclusively on alert emails.  And, most importantly, maintain a current backup.

       

      As for enterprise drives, I had two WD Gold drives fail in the last year.  One was 2 months after the end of the 5-year warranty, the other a couple months later.  Yet I have WD Reds that are older and running fine with >40,000 operating hours (running mostly 24/7) and not even a single reallocated sector.  I never use desktop grade drives in a NAS.

       

      Do you need to replace the NAS itself now to insure you get one that's OS6 and compatible with your current volume?  While I have no inside information, I just don't see Netgear superseding OS6 with something incompatible in the near future.  I don't see their market share being large enough to support it.  They also lost a lot of long-time enthusiasts when the switch from OS4/5 to OS6 did not provide a better migration path.  There was no incentive to stick with ReadyNAS over a competitor.  So if they've been paying attention, their next major upgrade should provide a better one.

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