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JBDragon1
May 25, 2021Virtuoso
Firmware 6.10.5 Warning
I just downloaded this Firmware tonight and it screwed everything up!!!! Most all of my apps running.
#1 Docker CE CLI. Installing this firmware update removes that app. Of course once it removes that all, all your apps running in DOCKER no longer work!!!!
It seems to screw up PLEX along with Tautulli.
Luckily I downloaded the firmware 6.10.4 and manually installed that. Shortly after it installed Hotfix 1. I changd Update to Long Term Support.
I tried to reinstall Docker CLI from the apps area, the icon was not there. It failed. My Docker apps were not working. So I went back to 6.10.4. Then I was able to install Docker CLI once again. But my Docker apps were still not running. It seems it disabled all that also. I have all my config files for my Docker apps saved. So it was back to redownloading them, and going through the process and starting them backup. I didn't lose any of those app settings. So that was all good. PLEX didn't seem to know my PLEX media server. It also didn't seem to want to play anything. It was just a busy signal, waiting. So I reinstalled PLEX and now it seems to be working once again.
If you use PLEX, you may be able to get it working under 6.10.5. I didn't care at that point with DOCKER being the biggest issue!!! This is really the best way to install Apps on your NAS. Why it's not built into ReadyNAS OS??? Becuase the app store is basically a joke. It opens up a huge world of app's when you can get them in Docker format and not screw up your NAS trying to SSH manually install apps the OLD WAY!!!
Advoid 6.10.5 if you do these things. Will it get fixed?!?!?! If it's already to late, you can go back. As far back as 6.10.0. Should be no need to go back that far. Go download 6.10.4 and manually install and fix your NAS.
JBDragon1 wrote:I never had any problem with PLEX as that was installed as a normal .DEB file. What I had issue with was with my DOCKER Apps I have running. So to use Docker apps, you need Docker CLI app running. It stopped working with 6.10.5. In turn that cause my Docker apps to stop working.
There is a cure to this. Download the Kernal Plus app from Netgear. It's also in the apps area. Docker CLI will once again work. Along with all my Docker apps.
Plex and EMBY are the only apps I have installed the normal App way. When Tautulli updated to version 2.7.4, it required an upgrade to Python 3. So that was going to open up a whole new can of worms. So I backed up the Database and put it in a safe place, and then I installed the Docker version of Tautulli and restored the Data back which is 2 differnt files. All was good. It gets everything it needs incuding Python 3. Really making it a snap. Doing other DOCKER apps, it's not all that hard to install. Much, Much, much simpler to install apps on a readnas that are not in the Netgear app store. It really opens things up to all kinds of apps. My Docker apps auto bootup on their own. It is really so much simpler then trying to SSH into a drive and trying to install apps the normal way. You end up mangling your NAS.
You still have to SSH into your NAS, but you're using DOCKER to do everything. I can install a Docker app pretty quickly now. The one Negative is apps can't be updated withen the app because of the way Docker works. So that can be a little bit of a Hassle. But it's not bad.
If you didn't know, Tautulli is a great Database program for PLEX. It tells you all kinds of Data. Has Graphs, etc. So I really know what is going on wiht PLEX. So all is good. PLEX always worked fine like I said. If I ran PLEX as a DOCKER app, I'd have had the same issue with PLEX.
Here's a Link to the Tautulli Docker app. Look under Docker CLI for your settings you need. Once you figure it out, It's not hard at all. I have all my Docker app Settings in a basic text file. I just cut out the one I need for whatever Docker app and paste it into my SSH window at the right point.
As a Example, here is my Docker CLI Settings for Tautulli. All the parameters below that I'm using are listed on that web page. All Docker apps are pretty simular. So instead of having to have an App setup for the specific hardware you have. Like a .DEB file that works on a ReadyNAS and either the Intel or ARM version, you use DOCKER that pretty much works on anything and grabs the software version needed, Intel or Arm, and anything it needs. It's basically Sandboxed. I think better than running a Virtual Machine which requires a lot more work and resource heavy. Docker support these days is really a must have!!!! It took me a little bit to figure out, but now I'm up and running with it. So many apps these days have a Docker version ready to go. It'll run on a ReadyNAS, or a QNAP, or whatever other NAS out there that also supports DOCKER.
docker run -d \
--name=tautulli \
-e PUID=1001 \
-e PGID=1001 \
-e TZ=America/Los_Angeles \
-p 8181:8181 \
-v /home/docker/tautulli/config:/config \
--restart unless-stopped \ghcr.io/linuxserver/tautulli
This actually isn't a "bug". Any time there is a kernel change, you'll need to update the kernel extensions that Docker requires. The release notes for 6.10.5 specifically said that the kernel was updated in it, so we knew that those extensions needed to be updated also.
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- michaelkenwardGuru - Experienced User
You have posted your message in the section of this community given over to Nighthawk WiFi Routers. (This is easily done, given Netgear's complicated community structure.)
Many questions apply to different types of device, so you might get responses here, but you might get more help, and find earlier questions and answers specific to your hardware, in the appropriate section for your device. That's probably here:
ReadyNAS Network Storage: Official NETGEAR Community- JBDragon1Virtuoso
Ya, that's what I did, ops!!!! Wrong area.
Has this been confirmed, or resolved?
A firmware being incompatilbe with particular app add-ons isn't great. Plex for example is very widely used.
- JBDragon1Virtuoso
I never had any problem with PLEX as that was installed as a normal .DEB file. What I had issue with was with my DOCKER Apps I have running. So to use Docker apps, you need Docker CLI app running. It stopped working with 6.10.5. In turn that cause my Docker apps to stop working.
There is a cure to this. Download the Kernal Plus app from Netgear. It's also in the apps area. Docker CLI will once again work. Along with all my Docker apps.
Plex and EMBY are the only apps I have installed the normal App way. When Tautulli updated to version 2.7.4, it required an upgrade to Python 3. So that was going to open up a whole new can of worms. So I backed up the Database and put it in a safe place, and then I installed the Docker version of Tautulli and restored the Data back which is 2 differnt files. All was good. It gets everything it needs incuding Python 3. Really making it a snap. Doing other DOCKER apps, it's not all that hard to install. Much, Much, much simpler to install apps on a readnas that are not in the Netgear app store. It really opens things up to all kinds of apps. My Docker apps auto bootup on their own. It is really so much simpler then trying to SSH into a drive and trying to install apps the normal way. You end up mangling your NAS.
You still have to SSH into your NAS, but you're using DOCKER to do everything. I can install a Docker app pretty quickly now. The one Negative is apps can't be updated withen the app because of the way Docker works. So that can be a little bit of a Hassle. But it's not bad.
If you didn't know, Tautulli is a great Database program for PLEX. It tells you all kinds of Data. Has Graphs, etc. So I really know what is going on wiht PLEX. So all is good. PLEX always worked fine like I said. If I ran PLEX as a DOCKER app, I'd have had the same issue with PLEX.
Here's a Link to the Tautulli Docker app. Look under Docker CLI for your settings you need. Once you figure it out, It's not hard at all. I have all my Docker app Settings in a basic text file. I just cut out the one I need for whatever Docker app and paste it into my SSH window at the right point.
As a Example, here is my Docker CLI Settings for Tautulli. All the parameters below that I'm using are listed on that web page. All Docker apps are pretty simular. So instead of having to have an App setup for the specific hardware you have. Like a .DEB file that works on a ReadyNAS and either the Intel or ARM version, you use DOCKER that pretty much works on anything and grabs the software version needed, Intel or Arm, and anything it needs. It's basically Sandboxed. I think better than running a Virtual Machine which requires a lot more work and resource heavy. Docker support these days is really a must have!!!! It took me a little bit to figure out, but now I'm up and running with it. So many apps these days have a Docker version ready to go. It'll run on a ReadyNAS, or a QNAP, or whatever other NAS out there that also supports DOCKER.
docker run -d \
--name=tautulli \
-e PUID=1001 \
-e PGID=1001 \
-e TZ=America/Los_Angeles \
-p 8181:8181 \
-v /home/docker/tautulli/config:/config \
--restart unless-stopped \ghcr.io/linuxserver/tautulli
- CLHatchLuminary
JBDragon1 wrote:I never had any problem with PLEX as that was installed as a normal .DEB file. What I had issue with was with my DOCKER Apps I have running. So to use Docker apps, you need Docker CLI app running. It stopped working with 6.10.5. In turn that cause my Docker apps to stop working.
There is a cure to this. Download the Kernal Plus app from Netgear. It's also in the apps area. Docker CLI will once again work. Along with all my Docker apps.
Plex and EMBY are the only apps I have installed the normal App way. When Tautulli updated to version 2.7.4, it required an upgrade to Python 3. So that was going to open up a whole new can of worms. So I backed up the Database and put it in a safe place, and then I installed the Docker version of Tautulli and restored the Data back which is 2 differnt files. All was good. It gets everything it needs incuding Python 3. Really making it a snap. Doing other DOCKER apps, it's not all that hard to install. Much, Much, much simpler to install apps on a readnas that are not in the Netgear app store. It really opens things up to all kinds of apps. My Docker apps auto bootup on their own. It is really so much simpler then trying to SSH into a drive and trying to install apps the normal way. You end up mangling your NAS.
You still have to SSH into your NAS, but you're using DOCKER to do everything. I can install a Docker app pretty quickly now. The one Negative is apps can't be updated withen the app because of the way Docker works. So that can be a little bit of a Hassle. But it's not bad.
If you didn't know, Tautulli is a great Database program for PLEX. It tells you all kinds of Data. Has Graphs, etc. So I really know what is going on wiht PLEX. So all is good. PLEX always worked fine like I said. If I ran PLEX as a DOCKER app, I'd have had the same issue with PLEX.
Here's a Link to the Tautulli Docker app. Look under Docker CLI for your settings you need. Once you figure it out, It's not hard at all. I have all my Docker app Settings in a basic text file. I just cut out the one I need for whatever Docker app and paste it into my SSH window at the right point.
As a Example, here is my Docker CLI Settings for Tautulli. All the parameters below that I'm using are listed on that web page. All Docker apps are pretty simular. So instead of having to have an App setup for the specific hardware you have. Like a .DEB file that works on a ReadyNAS and either the Intel or ARM version, you use DOCKER that pretty much works on anything and grabs the software version needed, Intel or Arm, and anything it needs. It's basically Sandboxed. I think better than running a Virtual Machine which requires a lot more work and resource heavy. Docker support these days is really a must have!!!! It took me a little bit to figure out, but now I'm up and running with it. So many apps these days have a Docker version ready to go. It'll run on a ReadyNAS, or a QNAP, or whatever other NAS out there that also supports DOCKER.
docker run -d \
--name=tautulli \
-e PUID=1001 \
-e PGID=1001 \
-e TZ=America/Los_Angeles \
-p 8181:8181 \
-v /home/docker/tautulli/config:/config \
--restart unless-stopped \ghcr.io/linuxserver/tautulli
This actually isn't a "bug". Any time there is a kernel change, you'll need to update the kernel extensions that Docker requires. The release notes for 6.10.5 specifically said that the kernel was updated in it, so we knew that those extensions needed to be updated also.
- StephenBGuru - Experienced User
Westyfield2 wrote:
Has this been confirmed, or resolved?
Per this thread, the particular problem was resolved on 3 June 21: https://community.netgear.com/t5/ReadyNAS-Storage-Apps-Current/Upgrade-linux-image-extra-not-up-to-date-for-ReadyNAS-OS-6-10-5/td-p/2096919
Though there is a more serious issue with 6.10.5 - some users have run into a login loop that has prevented them from logging in the NAS web ui and ssh. While I didn't experience this particular problem myself, I still recommend holding off on the upgrade until it is resolved. Netgear apparently has a fix in the works, but it hasn't been rolled out yet.
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