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ChuckMilne
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May 08, 2021
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Firmware 6.10.5 web interface broken in final release

My RN10200 had a 2tb drive die - so I replaced with two 4TB Seagate Iron Wolf NAS drives. There was a notice that a new version of the firmware was available 6.10.5 so I figured I should update this. This seems to have been the bad move. I'm in that loop in the web interace that signs back in every 5 seconds. The system itself seems to be working and I'm able to access the system normally over the local network. It's just the web interface that is broken. In trying to find out what is going on I've seen notices on this forum saying that the 6.10.5 beta had this problem so it seems strange that this wasn't fixed before general release. It seems that it is a problem with the browser having cache/history issues and a lot of suggestions to use another browser. So I've tried Chrome, Firefox, Edge on various PCs and even on my Android phone - they all seem to have this issue. Before seeing that it seems to be a browser issue I followed other suggestions to do a factory reset -  and after that whole process and long resysnc of drives it was exactly the same. I did find one laptop allowed me to clear out all Firefox cache/history and then suddenly it worked on that PC normally. But now an hour later even that machine (that hasn't been used for anything else in the meantime) is back to having this same login loop problem. Is going back to 6.10.3 the best option if I can get a browser to allow me the get to this firmware update process via the web interface again. Or does anyone know how to premanently fix this in 6.10.5?

Does anyone know exactly what needs to be cleared/changed in the browser settings to get around this?

Thanks

Chuck.

  • I was eventually able to get Firefox on my laptop to get on the the NAS web interface after doing a lot of playing around clearing caches/histories, etc. So I chose the firmware update feature in the interface to go back to the 6.10.3 version. After a reboot this seem to allow access to the NAS interface from everywhere again. So I'm not sure what the advantages might be of 6.10.5 - but the problems with the web interface seem to negate any improvements that might be in the latest version. So I'd be wary of this available update and treat the latest version as being still in beta.

     

    The 6.10.3 inteface does keep coming up and saying that a later release (6.10.4) is available and do I want to install that. But after my experience with 6.10.5 I think I'll keep replying to ignore the optional update and stick with 6.10.3 that has been stable for a long while.

     

    Regards,

    Chuck. 

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  • No one provided enough information to reproduce the problem and no one from NETGEAR had a look at any affected system on the community as far as I can tell.

     

    If you're still seeing it after a factory reset and clearing your web browser cache it would seem it could be related to something on your network or PC and how that interacts with the NAS.

     

    Have you checked if rebooting your router has any impact on the problem.

    • ChuckMilne's avatar
      ChuckMilne
      Initiate

      I was eventually able to get Firefox on my laptop to get on the the NAS web interface after doing a lot of playing around clearing caches/histories, etc. So I chose the firmware update feature in the interface to go back to the 6.10.3 version. After a reboot this seem to allow access to the NAS interface from everywhere again. So I'm not sure what the advantages might be of 6.10.5 - but the problems with the web interface seem to negate any improvements that might be in the latest version. So I'd be wary of this available update and treat the latest version as being still in beta.

       

      The 6.10.3 inteface does keep coming up and saying that a later release (6.10.4) is available and do I want to install that. But after my experience with 6.10.5 I think I'll keep replying to ignore the optional update and stick with 6.10.3 that has been stable for a long while.

       

      Regards,

      Chuck. 

      • SebastianNielse's avatar
        SebastianNielse
        Tutor

        The tech support had a look on my NAS (RN102) but they couldn't find what causing the issue.

        I have confirmed the issue went into 6.10.5 stable.

        It seems to be because of apps. If I manage to get the web interface working temporarly, the apps menu is blank, and you can only view installed apps.
        So somehow, Netgear have broke the app connection, and this causes the web interface to reset.

  • Took the plunge with 6.10.5 and immediately got the login loop with Chrome,Edge & Firefox. None of the described solutions worked. Finally was able to login with with iExplorer I hadn't used in years. I immediately downgraded to 6.10.4. All is well.

     

    I certainly regard this as a bug and do not consider 6.10.5 "stable". Who's kidding who?

    • StephenB's avatar
      StephenB
      Guru

      RSherman90 wrote:

      Took the plunge with 6.10.5 and immediately got the login loop with Chrome,Edge & Firefox. 

       


      I am not seeing this on my RN102.  Firmware 6.10.5 installed as usual, and there are no problems with browser access in Chrome.  It'd be good if we could figure out why some folks are seeing this, but not all.

       

      Are you running any apps on the NAS?  

      Also, is there internet security software running on the PC (Kaspersky, Avast, etc).

       

       

      • RSherman90's avatar
        RSherman90
        Apprentice

        StephenB wrote:

        RSherman90 wrote:

        Took the plunge with 6.10.5 and immediately got the login loop with Chrome,Edge & Firefox. 

         


        Are you running any apps on the NAS?
        Also, is there internet security software running on the PC (Kaspersky, Avast, etc).

         

         

        Yes. I'm running PLEX Media Server and SMB Plus. Also run Eset Nod32 antivirus on the PC. I'm tempted to try 6.10.5 on my RN424 at work to see if this is related to x86 vs. ARM as I've not seen that mentioned anywhere. But that will have to wait until the weekend.


         

    • stevenpemberton's avatar
      stevenpemberton
      Aspirant

      I installed 6.10.5 today and get the same problems on a 312.

       

      Resiliosync and Slim server apps installed.

  • I'm seeing the same issue on my RN104.  Login is looping in IE, Chrome, Firefox (including private browsing).  Even seeing the same thing using Firefox from my phone.  Can't access the web interface to downgrade.  Only app installed is Plex.

     

    Rebooted the unit, no change.

     

    SSH is disabled, so I can't fix it that way.

    • RSherman90's avatar
      RSherman90
      Apprentice

      Pirateguybrush wrote:

      I'm seeing the same issue on my RN104.  Login is looping in IE, Chrome, Firefox (including private browsing).  Even seeing the same thing using Firefox from my phone.  Can't access the web interface to downgrade.  Only app installed is Plex.

      Rebooted the unit, no change.

      SSH is disabled, so I can't fix it that way.


      Keep trying. You may get it eventually. I finally did an OS Reinstall. Then when the WebUi starts to come up to Overview, click on System before it shows the installed apps. Took a couple of trys before it worked. Also am not sure the OS Reinstall accomplished anything. You'll want to have an image of 6.10.4 firmware ready to manually install.

      • RSherman90's avatar
        RSherman90
        Apprentice

        Oops: should has written Settings, not System

         

        Then when the WebUi starts to come up to Overview, click on System before it shows the installed apps.

    • StephenB's avatar
      StephenB
      Guru

      Calitos wrote:


      3.- Open the web interface in an inprivate window


      Some posters have said they could not do this (it had the same log in problem as a normal browser window).

       

      Did you have trouble with this step?

      What browser were you using?

      • Calitos's avatar
        Calitos
        Tutor

        Everything worked by following those steps. I don't know if all the steps are necessary, but it only worked by doing it in an inprivate window immediately after rebooting the NAS. My Browser is Microsoft Edge Version 90.0.818.62

    • Calitos's avatar
      Calitos
      Tutor

      Steps:

      1.- Download and unzip the firmware version 6.10.4:
      https://kb.netgear.com/000062588/ReadyNAS-OS-6-Software-Version-6-10-4
      2.- Restart the NAS
      3.- Open the web interface in an inprivate window
      4.- In settings-update disable automatic firmware updates and notifications for update.
      5.- Install the firmware downloaded manually


      I have solved the problem again by downgrade the firmware to 6.10.4 on an RN104. This time I have only been able to access after disabling the cache in an inprivate window:

       

      Press F12 or open developer tools from within Chrome's settings (Settings> More tools> Developer tools). Click the cog in the top right of the pop-out box. Check the "Disable Cache (while DevTools is open)" setting box.

       

       

  • The following is my story, I try to be exact and detailed - maybe a bit too much.

    I have this NAS for a good few years, and I kept the default admin/password (bad habit, I know). A few days ago I updated to 6.10.5. When I tried to log in after the update (using Chrome), I got redirected immediately to the password recovery page (which indicated that I never set up a recovery method). I panicked a bit, then tried another browser (Opera) and I could log in OK. Then I decided to be a reasonable admin, so I set a complex password, as well as a recovery method. Since then, the situation is the following: I still get directed to the password recovery page right away if using Chrome. With other browsers, I can log in, but before the admin page would load completely, it goes to "Connecting to the ReadyNAS Admin Page", the blue progress bar, and it starts over. No matter how fast I click on any link, I cannot do anything. I tried to shut down or restart, I could comfortably click on the menu items 2-3 times, but had no effect.

    I ssh'd in and checked the journal. I found the below message (when I login with admin):

    apache2[4403]: [auth_basic:error] [pid 4403] [client 192.168.1.50:33252] AH01618: user 1621794430734 not found: /admin/index.html, referer: http://192.16
    8.1.102/admin/

    .50 is my laptop, .102 is the NAS. The strange part is the "user 1621794430734" that is not found.

    My impression (which may be totally wrong) is that my password change did not make it through all systems. It seems that the user databases got out of sync. "admin" is no longer known to certain parts of the web authentication system.

  • What happened since:

     

    I used the boot menu to do OS Reinstall. It reset the admin password to "password". Chrome still redirects to password recovery, but other browsers loaded the admin page properly.

    Then I changed the admin password -- and the problem returned.

    It seems that -- at least in my case -- it is the admin password change that generates the issue.

     

    I hope this is enough input for a thorough check from Netgear folks...

    • I don't think its the admin password change itself that causes the problem.

       

      But rather, the setup wizard does not contain the "problematic element" - thus the issue will NEVER appear in the setup wizard itself.

       

      Once you are done with the setup wizard, ergo on the first admin page, the problem returns due to the "problematic element" loading.

       

       

      And about the problematic element - I think it is the "Recommended" or "Featured" apps, that fails to load, and thus causes the admin page to reset itself as some sort of "error recovery".

      • Sandshark's avatar
        Sandshark
        Sensei

        The recommended apps show up for me, and I have no issues.  But I do have apps installed.  Maybe the installed apps being blank is a part of the puzzle?  Do you have any installed?

         

  • I initially had this same issue on my RN316 after installing the stable version of 6.10.5 (from the previous stable 6.10.4).  But I also had files uploading through SyncThing, and a large SMB transfer to the NAS going when I was trying to access the webpage.  Hoping that it was a combination of those sustained transfers along with any "apt" updates the system was still doing after the firmware update, I just let it sit for a while.  Got up today, and the webpage comes up just fine.  Oh, I've only tried in Chrome, didn't try other browsers when it wasn't working for me, or now that it is working.  Also, the SyncThing and SMB transfers are still going.

  • I have not had to move back in a firmware update.  I have 6.10.5 installed and need to re-install 6.10.3

    Within the firmware where would I find the command to re-install 6.10.3?  Sorry but this is the first time I have had to consider this.

     

    Thanks

    George


  • Just in case this is helpful - I logged in with a username/password other than admin, and didn't get the loop - i was able to then go back to 6.10.4

    • Bell98's avatar
      Bell98
      Guide

      I encountered this problem days ago with 6.10.5. Used Firefox then Edge to get in but still got looping to Admin page. Nas is working fine on my network with automatic backups happening as scheduled, it's just the admin page I'm having troubles with. Readycloud is connecting. 

      No Apps are installed but can see featured apps. I re-installed the OS to try and solve the looping and I got access to the admin page using default admin and password. Changed the password and set up password recovery, logged out logged in again the fault's back with the looping again. Reinstalled OS got in again, back to changing password as before, logged out. Logged in again - back to looping. Unit seems stable when logged in under OS reinstall so re-installed OS BUT this time didn't change anything. It's worked for days logging in and out under default login to check if it's working which it is. I'm waiting for update to repair this issue before changing anything again. Not a safe way to use it in a business situation but this is a domestic situation and no-one here would even know how to attempt a login to it never mind want to. 

      • StephenB's avatar
        StephenB
        Guru

        I recommend doing another OS reinstall, and then downgrade to 6.10.4.  After that change your password.

  • Similar problem here. However slightly different scenario.

     

    My RN426 was running ReadyNasOS 6.10.3 and everything seemed fine for months.

     

    Installed 6.10.4 and we assumed everything was fine, but after a few weeks we were starting to receive zero bytes on certain files.

     

    We then installed 6.10.5 and was hoping the zero bytes issue would dissapear. It seemed much better as we did not experience zero bytes for a week, but then it started to plague us again and it was becoming worse. We assumed it was because we were saving files via Apple Macs on SMB, so we started using AFPS, but the issue still  continued. Occasionally the Readynas RN426 would dissapear and come back online. But we thought it was out iMacs. 

     

    then a few days ago, our whole network died, all hard wired cabled devices were nowhere to be seen (we use a dedicated TP-Link Archer C8 wifi router connected to a WAN for internet, the Archer C8 broadcasts the DHCP network.) we discovered that all hardwired connections were dead, including the WAN connection. We left the router (had to go home) and when we arrived in teh office teh following day, the network was all working fine. However 4/5 hours later, it died again.  So we assumed that the Archer C8 router's ethernet card had died, as a result, I bought a new router and installed that.

     

    So did that fix it... NO!

     

    With a new router plugged in, all our devices were brought back online, and internet restored via the WAN. however we discovered that the ReadyNAS RN426 was coming online and then going offline a minute later. We also discovered a printer and one of our PC's doing the same (both share the same) 8 port ethernet switch. so we disconnected the PC from the network  and the ReadyNAS was still misbehaving.

     

    So we've downgraded the firmware and everything is running as per normal.

     

    Over the next few days, we'll assess the stability and maybe plug in the old router to see it was broken or whether it was the readynas affecting the whole network.