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How to replace readynas 102 by readynas 214
Hi, I'm currently owning an readynas 102 with firmware version 6.10.3. (the old system) The nas contains two bays with two 3TB hard drives configured as X-RAID Raid1 And I'm running out of space n...
Your solution is a sound one. Yes, you should be able to directly move the drives with power off and it will "just work". But a backup is always a good plan, just in case.
While technically not a necessity, it is a good idea to use a spare drive to test the NAS and put the firmware to the same revision as the old one. Just let the NAS create a volume on the scratch drive, update the OS if needed, then power down. Move the drive to the next bay, and power up. Repeat for all bays. Now you know all is in order before you move the volume and you won't be taken by surprise by an (unlikely, but possible) bad drive bay when you go to expand.
If you don't update the new NAS OS and it's older, then the OS on the drives is supposed to update the flash, which will cause a double-boot of the system. But why leave anything to chance? And doing it yourself gives you more insight into what's happening.
If you end up with an Intel based system (300 series or higher) instead of the ARM based 214 you stated, you should un-install any apps you have before the migration and re-install in the new. Otherwise, same approach.
Your solution is a sound one. Yes, you should be able to directly move the drives with power off and it will "just work". But a backup is always a good plan, just in case.
While technically not a necessity, it is a good idea to use a spare drive to test the NAS and put the firmware to the same revision as the old one. Just let the NAS create a volume on the scratch drive, update the OS if needed, then power down. Move the drive to the next bay, and power up. Repeat for all bays. Now you know all is in order before you move the volume and you won't be taken by surprise by an (unlikely, but possible) bad drive bay when you go to expand.
If you don't update the new NAS OS and it's older, then the OS on the drives is supposed to update the flash, which will cause a double-boot of the system. But why leave anything to chance? And doing it yourself gives you more insight into what's happening.
If you end up with an Intel based system (300 series or higher) instead of the ARM based 214 you stated, you should un-install any apps you have before the migration and re-install in the new. Otherwise, same approach.
Hi Sandshark,
great response.
Thanks a lot and best regards.
Albert
This thread is great and exactly what I need. I also have a ReadyNAS 102 that I purchased about 20+ years ago. This thing has worked like a champ and I've never had a hardware or software problem with it. I do however, need to upgrade since this is end-of-life. The only difference is that I have not upgraded the firmware since [if it works don't fix/break it] and my firmware version is 6.1.8 and not the latest 6.10+ version. I didn't want to upgrade until I had a chance to backup the data but now I have to. I'm currently using 948 GB of the available 2.62 TB of data so I really would like to backup to something that has 948 GB of space before I touch this perfectly working device and my data that it contains. (I'm a test engineer that's been working with and testing devices for 30 years, including NAS storage devices by very reputable companies like QLogic) and this has been the best product I've ever worked with, bar none. I never had to troubleshoot or fix the ReadyNAS since I've never had a single problem with it--hardware or software! I love it!, I've gone through many laptops and all I had to do was reconnect to my ReadyNAS with the new laptop and voila - there is all of my data!).
So anyways, my plan is pretty much the same I think except I should backup my data first, then upgrade the firmware to the latest before attempting to transfer the data to a new Netgear/ReadyNAS device (is ReadyNAS 214 still the best choice in 2022?). So can you please recommend a backup process (then I assume it will be okay to click the "upgrade firmware" process when I connect to it next)......then what is the best Netgear/ReadyNAS product to buy that I can (preferably) plug my old drives into) ? I'd like to upgrade to the newest device that has the same quality as the ReadyNAS 102 and will last another 20 years! Also would like to have some extra drives so that I start off with a backup on some new drives that won't already be end-of-life.
Thanks in advance!
To the Developers, Test Engineers and Support Engineers for this product: Kudo's!!! Great job! Best product I never had to troubleshoot or fix!
Fawn
fkhill13@gmail.com
Fawn22 wrote:
I also have a ReadyNAS 102 that I purchased about 20+ years ago.
I'm sure it seems that long ago, but you must have purchased it about 2014.
The RN102 was launched in 2013, 6.1.8 firmware was released in May 2014, 6.1.9 was released in September, 2014.
Fawn22 wrote:
So anyways, my plan is pretty much the same I think except I should backup my data first, then upgrade the firmware to the latest before attempting to transfer the data to a new Netgear/ReadyNAS device
Given the age of your firmware, you should definitely back up your data before updating it.
You can't go directly from 6.1.8 to 6.10.7 - you need to do a couple of intermediate updates first. This is explained in the release notes: https://kb.netgear.com/000064653/ReadyNAS-OS-6-Software-Version-6-10-7
- ReadyNAS 102, 104, and 2120 systems must not be updated directly to 6.10.x from 6.3.x or older firmware. They must first be updated to either 6.2.5 or 6.3.5 then to 6.5.2 and then to 6.10.x.
Not sure the check for updates function in your NAS will handle this correctly, so you chould update to 6.2.5 and then 6.5.2 manually.
@Fawn22 wrote:
(is ReadyNAS 214 still the best choice in 2022?).
That one is hard to answer. Although Netgear hasn't said anything official, it looks like they are exiting the NAS business. They haven't launched a new ReadyNAS platform since 2017. Also, inventory on new ReadyNAS is very scarce, and what is out there is generally overpriced.
So likely you will need to get a used ReadyNAS or switch to a new model from another vendor. Either way, you could keep the RN102 in service as a backup NAS. It is possible to set it up to back up your new NAS automatically over the network.
Since the RN102 is still working for you, you could also just keep it in service until it fails (upgrading its disks). However, you really should put a backup strategy in place. Devices can always fail, and RAID isn't enough to keep your data safe. At least one backup to another device is the best way to keep it safe. Backup is usually cheaper and always more certain than data recovery from a failed device.
As far as performance goes, either the RN212/RN214 or the RN422/RN424 would make sense for you.
Fawn22 wrote:
So can you please recommend a backup process
Obviously you need some storage to copy off the data. Likely that would be a USB drive. Its best to format it using a format you can read on other devices (e.g., PCs).
One option is to use one of the USB 3.0 ports on the back of the RN102. (The front USB port is USB 2.0, so significantly slower). There is a guide here: https://kb.netgear.com/29654/How-do-I-back-up-data-from-my-ReadyNAS-OS-6-system-to-a-USB-disk It does contain one piece of bad advice though - it suggests EXT formatting. While that does back up faster, that format isn't supported in either Windows or Macs. A backup you can't access on a PC isn't very useful. So select NTFS for the format, and not EXT.
The other option is to connect the drive to a PC (or Mac), and back up the files over the network. While you can use drag-and-drop, it's better to use something else. FreeFileSync is free software you could use.
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