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Han_Solo
Jul 12, 2012Tutor
New hard drives being added to the HCL
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to let everyone that we have added the following new family of drives to the HCL.
WD RED family of drives: Capacities of 3TB, 2TB and 1TB are now qualified on most systems, more to follow soon.
Toshiba DT01ACA family of drives: Capacity of 1TB tested so far. It is currently only qualified on the Duo v2 and NV+ v2 with the remaining ReadyNAS units to follow soon. A special note to add here is these drives are in fact Hitachi's latest 1TB desktop class drive. Toshiba acquired Hitachi's HDD desktop division earlier this year. For now the labels will say both Toshiba and Hitachi on them but I am sure that will change to Toshiba only label in the future.
I wanted to let everyone that we have added the following new family of drives to the HCL.
WD RED family of drives: Capacities of 3TB, 2TB and 1TB are now qualified on most systems, more to follow soon.
Toshiba DT01ACA family of drives: Capacity of 1TB tested so far. It is currently only qualified on the Duo v2 and NV+ v2 with the remaining ReadyNAS units to follow soon. A special note to add here is these drives are in fact Hitachi's latest 1TB desktop class drive. Toshiba acquired Hitachi's HDD desktop division earlier this year. For now the labels will say both Toshiba and Hitachi on them but I am sure that will change to Toshiba only label in the future.
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- HERBIEOAspirantGood job nice to see that these WD RED family of drives have been qualified.
- btaroliProdigyThis was a reminder to me to inquire on an issue a friend recently faced when upgrading his old NV with 2TB drives. Are there any notes in the HCL or elsewhere warning about the configuration thresholds that will result in a need to do a factory reset in order to use all the upgraded/installed capacity?
The reason the HCL came to find for us as a possibility for this info (or at least a warning) is that it's likely the only place someone will look when they go to do an upgrade of drives, etc. - Good stuff, was just reading about the WD Red drives.
Though their website says "WD Red NAS hard drives have been extensively tested for compatibility in 1-5 bay NAS systems our FIT labs and AVL qualified with these key partners." and then lists the Netgear ReadyNAS Pro 6 (6 Bay)... :-?
Although StorageReview.com's IOMeter tests put it as slower than the RE4, I'm gonna be tempted by the 3TB Red (WD30EFRX) as the RE4 only comes in 2TB (WD2003FYYS)... - StephenBGuru - Experienced User
Netgear's HCL for the Pro 6 was also updated to include it.Westyfield2 wrote: Good stuff, was just reading about the WD Red drives.
Though their website says "WD Red NAS hard drives have been extensively tested for compatibility in 1-5 bay NAS systems our FIT labs and AVL qualified with these key partners." and then lists the Netgear ReadyNAS Pro 6 (6 Bay)... :-?
Although StorageReview.com's IOMeter tests put it as slower than the RE4, I'm gonna be tempted by the 3TB Red (WD30EFRX) as the RE4 only comes in 2TB (WD2003FYYS)... - PapaBear1Apprenticebtaroli - the only limitations that I am aware of is that to create or expand to a volume greater than 2TB, you need to establish the array on Radiator version 4.1.0 or higher as you need the 16K blocks. This means that those with older NV and NV+ units that came with version 3 must perform a factory default on version 4 in order to use 16K blocks. This does not apply to the Duo as it never shipped with version 3.
This is found in the notes about what is new in version 4 when it was released. - StephenBGuru - Experienced User
There is also 4K sector alignment which is needed for best performance. Support for this was added in 4.1.7, so if your most recent factory default was done with an earlier release you won't have that. The drives will work, but performance will be slower.PapaBear wrote: btaroli - the only limitations that I am aware of is that to create or expand to a volume greater than 2TB, you need to establish the array on Radiator version 4.1.0 or higher as you need the 16K blocks. This means that those with older NV and NV+ units that came with version 3 must perform a factory default on version 4 in order to use 16K blocks. This does not apply to the Duo as it never shipped with version 3.
This is found in the notes about what is new in version 4 when it was released.
With the larger drives, there is also the 8 TB expansion threshold from the initial volume size, and inability to expand beyond 16 TB - both of which need a factory default to overcome. They don't apply to the V1 models so it won't impact btaroli's friend. But of course people have run into them with the newer models that support > 2 TB drives. - btaroliProdigyAnd I guess that's kind of my point. Those of us who've been around a while have seen these things emerge slowly. But over time we forget. And how folks who've had devices but weren't really active in the forums are reaching a point where they are upgrading. Where do they go to see the list of gotchas, limitations, etc when upgrading? And, no, no one is realistically going to go all the way back to 4.00c1-p1 release notes to read about issues/limits when upgrading. And some of these limits span architectures. It's quite a mess, really. But a simple enumeration in a document (perhaps the HCL, or at least referred from it, esp for disk drives) would be SO helpful.
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