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torstein_osborg
Jan 03, 2017Aspirant
Smart error on disc WD2002FAEX - like to change to bigger discs
Hi One of my 2gb disc's Western Digital WD2002FAEX gives me a SMART error: "Detected increasing uncorrectable errors[172] on disk 3 [WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0, WD-WMAY00807383]. This often in...
StephenB
Jan 03, 2017Guru - Experienced User
I think you meant 6 TB, not 6 GB...
There are some expansion limits with 4.2.x firmware.
- You cannot expand a volume over a 16 TiB ceiling
- You cannot expand a volume more than 8 TiB from its starting point.
If you started with 5x2TB then you hit both these limitations at about the same time - you can grow the volume from 8 TB to 16 TB but no further.
So if you stay with 4.2.x firmware you can upgrade to 5x4 TB, but not 5x6 TB.
If you want to go higher you can convert your ReadyNAS to run OS 6. That doesn't have these expansion limits. Netgear doesn't support that conversion, but many people have done it, and there is information here on how to do it. The process does require a factory reset, so you would need to restore all the files from backup after the process is finished.
You do want to be careful on when you choose very large disks - manufacturers are shifting to alternative mounting positions on the drives, so you should make sure that enough mounting holes are aligned with the tray so you can screw them in. Usually you can google this info. Also, you should avoid SMR drives (Seagate archival drives for example). They are cost effective for archival, but aren't well suited for RAID.
torstein_osborg wrote:
So what disc's do you recommend and how do i do the change from 4 pcs 2gbyte to 3 new bigger ones, or do i have to use 5 discs when changing all 5?
You have to replace at least two drives to get space increase - the capacity formula for XRAID single redundancy is "sum the drives and subtract the largest". I always hot-swap - removing the first drive and replacing it with the NAS running. Then after the volume resyncs, repeat the process with the next. Be sure the process is done.
As far as drives go, I personally go with NAS-purposed drives (I use WDC Reds, though Seagate Ironwolf is another option). These aren't quite as fast as enterprise drives, but they run a lot cooler. Enterprise-class is of course also an option, for instance the WDC Red Pro drives.
- torstein_osborgJan 12, 2017Aspirant
Thanks StephenB.
I have now 5 pcs new 4 TB disks ready. (WD Red 4TB 3.5" NAS HDD)
I am currently uploading all data to jottacloud.
I will not update OS this time.
When backup is finish i will replace one bye one, wait for resync in between.
I have 2 of 5 old disks reporting SMART error.
q:
Should i start to change the disks with errors first, or should i start from top and change one by one (1+2+3+4+5 from top and down)?
Hostname: Mamma
Model: ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Plus [X-RAID2]
Serial: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Firmware: RAIDiator 4.2.30
Memory: 1024 MB [6-6-6-18 DDR2]IPv4 address: 1: 192.168.0.4
IPv4 address: 2: 192.168.0.5
Volume C: Online, X-RAID2, 5 disks, 84% of 7399 GB used
- StephenBJan 13, 2017Guru - Experienced User
torstein_osborg wrote:
I have 2 of 5 old disks reporting SMART error.
Should i start to change the disks with errors first, or should i start from top and change one by one (1+2+3+4+5 from top and down)?
It always risky when two disks have errors. If you can make a backup first you should.
You want to replace the disk in the worst shape first. If you aren't sure which one that is, perhaps post the SMART errors you are seeing on the two drives.
After that replace the other disk with errors.
- torstein_osborgJan 13, 2017Aspirant
Hi
thanks for answer StephenB!
I start with to hot swap no 3 if nobody obejects.
Newest SMART/Error messages on top:
13. jan 17 (today friday 13.......)
Detected increasing pending sector count[123] on disk 3 [WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0, WD-WMAY00807383] 15 times in the past 30 days. This often indicates an impending failure. Please be prepared to replace this disk to maintain data redundancy.
Today:
SMART Information for Disk 3
Model: WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0
Serial: WD-WMAY00807383
Firmware: 05.01D05
SMART Attribute
Raw Read Error Rate 2
Spin Up Time 6241
Start Stop Count 1287
Reallocated Sector Count 0
Seek Error Rate 0
Power On Hours 47013
Spin Retry Count 0
Calibration Retry Count 0
Power Cycle Count 150
Power-Off Retract Count 65
Load Cycle Count 1221
Temperature Celsius 40
Reallocated Event Count 0
Current Pending Sector 111
Offline Uncorrectable 172
UDMA CRC Error Count 0
Multi Zone Error Rate 185
ATA Error Count 07. jan 17
Detected increasing pending sector count[265] on disk 2 [WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0, WD-WMAY00875116] 15 times in the past 30 days. This often indicates an impending failure. Please be prepared to replace this disk to maintain data redundancy.
Today:
SMART Information for Disk 2
Model: WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0
Serial: WD-WMAY00875116
Firmware: 05.01D05
SMART Attribute
Raw Read Error Rate 20
Spin Up Time 6466
Start Stop Count 1294
Reallocated Sector Count 0
Seek Error Rate 0
Power On Hours 46993
Spin Retry Count 0
Calibration Retry Count 0
Power Cycle Count 150
Power-Off Retract Count 65
Load Cycle Count 1228
Temperature Celsius 42
Reallocated Event Count 0
Current Pending Sector 39
Offline Uncorrectable 2
UDMA CRC Error Count 0
Multi Zone Error Rate 21
ATA Error Count 01. jan 17
Detected increasing uncorrectable errors[172] on disk 3 [WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0, WD-WMAY00807383]. This often indicates an impending failure. Please be prepared to replace this disk to maintain data redundancy.
Hostname: Mamma Model: ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Plus [X-RAID2] Serial: 2Hxxxxxx Firmware: RAIDiator 4.2.30 Memory: 1024 MB [6-6-6-18 DDR2] IPv4 address: 1: 192.168.0.4 IPv4 address: 2: Not Connected Volume C: Online, X-RAID2, 5 disks, 84% of 7399 GB used
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