Upgrading from 5x2TB to 4x8TB on Readynas Pro 6

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Dear all,&nbsp;My current setup on the ReadyNas Pro 6 is:- 5x2TB in Raid 6 for volume DATA- 1x2TB in JBOD for volume SCRATCHI now have a pack of 4x8TB WD RED drives looking at me.At the same time, I'm getting some weird behaviours from the ReadyNAS (TimeMachine is very slow, cant log in via SSH, the users disappeared).I'm currently running 6.10.1 and I feel like I should do a Factory Reset.What would be the right migration path for this unit? My prefered end state would be:&nbsp;- 4x8TB in RAID 6 for /DATA&nbsp;- 1x2TB for /SCRATCHAnd if possible, jump to 6.10.3.Any ideas?

Sandshark · Answer

Your current SCRATCH and a smallish USB drive can hold all the data for the backup.&nbsp; Using another volume in the NAS for backup isn't the safest, but it is the fastest, especially on a NAS with only USB2.&nbsp;Alternately, you couldExport SCRATCHInsert one 8TB drive and Create a new SCRATCH8TB JBODBackup DATA to SCRATCH8TB&nbsp;(fastest via SSH, but RSYNC jobs can work with 127.0.0.1 as the "remote": address)Eject SCRATCH8TBRemove 2TB drives and insert 3&nbsp; 8TB's.Factory default (which is really automatic with all new drives) and create a RAID5Import SCRATCH8TB (just insert with power off and boot)Restore data from SCRATCH8TB to new DATADestroy SCRATCH8TBUse drive that was SCRATCH8TB to add redundancy to DATA to get RAID6Insert and import SCRATCH.If you save your configuration before starting the process, it will be easier to get back where you were by importing it.&nbsp; Just remember to re-install any apps before restoring the config backup.&nbsp; You can restore the apps anywhere after step 6.&nbsp;Theoretically, you could alsoRemove one 2TB and let DATA be degraded (but still with one drive redundancy)&nbsp;Export SCRATCH (to insure it does not become the "primary" volume).Add two 8TB and make them DATA2Backup DATA to DATA2&nbsp;&nbsp;Uninstall any apps.Eject or destory DATAAdd remaining 2 8TB and add them to DATA2 to get RAID6Rename any backup shares to the original names from DATA.&nbsp; Note that renaming DATA2 is quite a challenge (though I've done it), but should not be necessary, anyway.&nbsp;Re-install any apps.Insert and import SCRATCHThis theoretically retains you configuration through the whole process.&nbsp; The only issue with this plan is that I have run some tests and sometimes the home folders or apps folder isn't properly moved when you destroy or export the primary volume (what I call the one containing the home folders and apps) on which they reside.&nbsp; Note that even when home folder migration works, it does not migrate the data, so insure you backup includes that.&nbsp; Likewise, migration of the apps diectory does not migrate the apps themselves (thus the need for un-install and re-install).&nbsp; These are fixable via SSH, but it's a chore even for one versed in Linux, so it's best not to put yourself in that situation.

Sandshark · Answer

EXPORT maKes the NAS "forget" the volume, but leaves the volume intact for later IMPORT, unlike a DESTROY.&nbsp; It marks the volume as exported in some way, but I have not determined how since it's no longer present once it's IMPORTed (where you can look at it).&nbsp; This is why you cannot IMPORT a volume that was not first EXPORTed.&nbsp; Note that IMPORT is automatic when you insert the drives with power on an boot.&nbsp; So if you re-boot without removing the EXPORTed volume, it's re-IMPORTed (unless it was the primary volume, then it can get messy).&nbsp;Note, too, that you cannot boot from an EXPORTed volume, even if it previously was your primary volume (which causes the messiness above).&nbsp; You can import it to another NAS that already has a volume, as&nbsp; long as the volume name and all share names are different between the volumes.&nbsp; And any home or apps shares on it will remain invisible to everything except SSH.&nbsp;And to continue other FYI's aligned with this, if you want to migrate a volume from one NAS to be bootable in another, don't EXPORT.&nbsp; Just move it, then DESTROY the missing volume on the original NAS.&nbsp; Note that both NAS will then have the same UUID, and I have no idea if that could ever matter.&nbsp;I've run test cases on all of these because Netgear does not document the process well.&nbsp; It is during those tests that i experienced the issues with it not migrating home folders or apps.&nbsp; Those may have been due to the sequence of multiple events I followed, as I could not reliably repeat them (and neither could Netgear when I pointed them out).

StephenB · Answer

Equinox1&nbsp;wrote:
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My current setup on the ReadyNas Pro 6 is:- 5x2TB in Raid 6 for volume DATA- 1x2TB in JBOD for volume SCRATCHWhat would be the right migration path for this unit? My prefered end state would be:&nbsp;- 4x8TB in RAID 6 for /DATA&nbsp;- 1x2TB for /SCRATCH

One option is to go with 4x8TB+2TB for the array with dual redundancy.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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But since you are thinking you want to do a factory reset anyway, then maybe

Export the scratch volume
Power down and remove all disks (labeling them by slot).
Do a factory default with 4x8TB and set it up as RAID-6
Import the scratch volume
Restore data from backup

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Equinox1 · Answer

But the current /DATA volume(5x2TB) is packed with the real 3,5TB of user data.....If I do that, I lose the currenta /DATA volume.&nbsp;

StephenB · Answer

Equinox1&nbsp;wrote:
But the current /DATA volume(5x2TB) is packed with the real 3,5TB of user data.....If I do that, I lose the currenta /DATA volume.
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If you want to do a factory reset, then you need to back up the data.&nbsp; Hence step 5.
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If you don't want to do that, then you could simply go with 4x8TB+2TB for the current DATA volume (expanding it).&nbsp; Though I'd still recommend doing a backup before doing that.
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With that process, you'd hot-swap the new 8 TB drives one at a time, waiting for resync. You'd then need to create a new 4x6TB RAID-6 group using the new space, and concatenate it with the existing 5x2TB RAID-6 group.&nbsp;
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You'd end up with an 18 TB volume instead of 16 TB.
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