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Max_NAS
Apr 07, 2015Tutor
backup from PC data drive to ReadyNAS
I've setup a backup job from a local data drive on my PC to a ReadyNAS folder. It works partially (ie. copies all folders and files to the destination) but throws up the "Error backup job" error and the NAS copies reflect 0kB files. The problem seems to start with the first attempted copy of a file in the recycle bin. "Cannot read $RECYCLE.BIN/S-1-5-21-3114080946-3655224-3349355193-1000/desktop.ini".
Can I exclude the recycle bin from the backup job? The whole point of a recycle bin is not wanting to have a copy of the file.
I've been in touch with support and they suggested I try a third party software. I'd prefer not to, hoping the ReadyNAS software can be made to work for me.
Thanks,
Max
Can I exclude the recycle bin from the backup job? The whole point of a recycle bin is not wanting to have a copy of the file.
I've been in touch with support and they suggested I try a third party software. I'd prefer not to, hoping the ReadyNAS software can be made to work for me.
Thanks,
Max
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- BaJohnVirtuosoA quick work around, if you want it is to use the folder level below the drive.
i.e. D:\Folder1, D\Folder2 etc. instead of D:\
This may not be practical if you have 100s of folders just below the top level. - RXLuminaryAre you referring that you are backing up a whole drive such as the local drive C: to your NAS? --If yes, then I suggest you to just backup only the folders that contains relevant data that needs to be backed up.
- Max_NASTutorThanks BaJohn and Ixa,
I've tried as you suggested - backing up only the folders and not the root drive - but it still copies all file names with 0kB contents and throws up the following errors...
Cannot read .picasa.ini
Copy Folder .picasaoriginals
Cannot read .picasaoriginals/.picasa.ini
... with similar errors for all other files in the folder.
To fill you in on more detail regarding what I want to do;
I have a physical HDD with two partitions; A:/ and R:/
In the R:/ partition I only have four folders: PROJECTS_A, PROJECTS_B, PROJECTS_C and PROJECTS_D
Within those folders I have about 10-20 sub folders containing data that changes a few times a day. All I want to do is have a backup of the four folders and all their contents.
Any further ideas? - BaJohnVirtuoso
If you still want a quick solution, you could just make the non readable files readable (by all) on your PC.Max_NAS wrote: Cannot read .picasa.ini
Cannot read .picasaoriginals/.picasa.ini
... with similar errors for all other files in the folder.
Any further ideas?
Solution MAY depend on how many people use the data and the level of security required.
If you are not to worried about that then the above should work. - Max_NASTutorThanks BaJohn,
After a clean boot of both the NAS and PC this morning, the backup job appeared to work at first (even the Read Only picasa.ini file copied).
However, the Backup Log eventually started to report problems with a mix of Copy File and Cannot read entries.
Copy File Ash_A_09_TR_7.png
Copy File Ash_A_09_TR_7_1.png
Cannot read Ash_A_09_TR_7_2.png
Cannot read Ash_A_09_TR_7_3.png
So I don't think making Read-only files readable will solve the problem - it appears to be unrelated to whether they copy or not.
I'm a single user on a small closed network with just 2 PCs and a NAS connected to a switch - so permissions/ security is not a problem.
Any other suggestions? - BaJohnVirtuoso
My setup is not too dissimilar to yours.Max_NAS wrote: Any other suggestions?
Having being doing backups of one sort or another for many years, I have eventually settled on using RoboCopy.
This does all that I want and gives me control from the PC, with logs on the PC (which get backed up to NAS).
RoboCopy is easy to find online and is free and solves lots of problems, BUT you do need to read the manual carefully.
You will also have to write batch files of some sort, although these can be very simplistic.
I have ended up with a batch file that (currently) copies all of my 6 data virtual discs to another physical disc within the PC, then to an external disc via USB, then to the NAS in the garage room via the LAN, and then switches the PC off.
I just click this batch file before going to bed most nights, and it all happens. As only changes are copied across, it can be very quick and it is very reliable. But if it takes an hour who cares, I am in bed.
I am certain that other people are just as fanatical about their own particular backup strategy and 'tools' they use. My choice has given me a lot of control and flexibility, which is what I want. (I am a control freak) and my strategy has changed with time and technology, and will continue to change as things evolve.
I was thinking that you wanted a 'quick fix', hence the previous advice, although I am still not sure why the giving read access to 'everyone' does not work. Did you tick the box for the changed permissions to propagate through the sub folders? You MAY want to carefully consider why the files do not copy across at present BEFORE changing to some other strategy. - StephenBGuru - Experienced Userrobocopy is a microsoft tool that is included in all new versions of windows, so there is no need to download it. I use this (with scripts) to back up shares on my NAS to the PC. But it will work just as well in the other direction.
The PC share and all the files in the four folders need to be fully accessible by the NAS. That requires you to set both the file permissions in the windows folders and the share permissions correctly. Are you using the windows PC logon in the NAS backup job?
The particular files you are listing are hidden files. Have you looked at their permissions on the PC? - BaJohnVirtuoso
Although Stephen is correct that RoboCopy has been provided in Windows (and NOT promulgated) since, I believe Vista, it is possible that a download is necessary.StephenB wrote: robocopy is a microsoft tool that is included in all new versions of windows, so there is no need to download it.
Even for Windows 7 the latest version available online contains some improvements in the area of permissions. - StephenBGuru - Experienced UserI believe it was included in Vista though it possible that I downloaded it a long time ago in a galaxy far away ...
- BaJohnVirtuosoThe intention was " ......RoboCopy has been provided in Windows since, I believe Vista." i.e. including Vista.
I added the info on non promulgation as an afterthought as some people had not heard of it, even though it had been available secretly in Windows for a long time.
Sticking it in the wrong place, probably made a "misplaced participle" or "dangling modifier" or something in the grammer. It made it less readable anyway.
Each version of windows since, seems to have it's own version of RoboCopy, with 'fixes' available for the Windows 7 version at least.
IMHO the problem of permissions will probably need to be overcome with whatever backup/copy strategy is adopted.
The easiest thing I suspect is to solve the permissions problem with the existing setup.
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