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Can I format a previously formatted disk while an xraid volume is in place?
My ReadyNAS 316 contains 2 8TB and 4 4TB drives running X-RAID. All WD Enterprise class drives from the NG Compatibility List.
Drive #6 (4TB) began reallocation sector errors which began to increase over time. Yes, I dragged my feet and the volume became inaccessible. I had a previous 4TB drive that one of the 8TBs replaced. It has data on it. Until my new drive arrives, I want to replace the failed drive with the 4TB drive that contains data, no need to save this data.
Can I format this previously formatted disk while the xraid volume is in place?
From reading the HW and SW users manual, I determined that I should gracefully shut down, remove the 5 working drives, replace the failed drive with the previously formatted drive, switch on the NAS and perform a format from RAIDar. True?
Wondering if I can format while the xraid volume is active is for future reference.
Thanks for educating a greenhorn!
Yes, you can replace the failed 4TB with the previously removed 4TB. BUT, if your data is inaccessable, it probably won't help. If your volume is reported as "degraded", then it will. It sounds. however, that you had a second drive fail, in which case the volume will be shown as "dead", and you are in a data recovery situation. That's going to cost, and it's likely not going to be 100% successful. Your recovery options are paid support from Netgear or hookling the drives up to a PC and running ReclaiMe software. Both will require a location to offload the data so you can later destroy the old volume, create a new one, and put the recovered data back.
Of course, if you have a backup (and I assume you would probably not be here asking if you did), you can replace the bad drives, factory default, and restore data from backup.
If the volume is just degraded, you really should think about making a backup before you proceed. Volume re-sync is drive intensive, and any drive close to failure has a higher chance during it. Then, the best way to proceed is to swap the drive with power on, especially for a previously formatted drive. The NAS will tell you you removed and then inserted the drive, and will complain the "new" one has data on it. At that point, you select it and click "format". Don't format it outside the NAS first, it won't help. But you can remove all partitions and avoid the format step when it's inserted in the NAS if you choose.
BTW, the data on the drive from the previous installation on the NAS, it isn't usable since it's an incomplete part of a RAID array..
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Yes, you can replace the failed 4TB with the previously removed 4TB. BUT, if your data is inaccessable, it probably won't help. If your volume is reported as "degraded", then it will. It sounds. however, that you had a second drive fail, in which case the volume will be shown as "dead", and you are in a data recovery situation. That's going to cost, and it's likely not going to be 100% successful. Your recovery options are paid support from Netgear or hookling the drives up to a PC and running ReclaiMe software. Both will require a location to offload the data so you can later destroy the old volume, create a new one, and put the recovered data back.
Of course, if you have a backup (and I assume you would probably not be here asking if you did), you can replace the bad drives, factory default, and restore data from backup.
If the volume is just degraded, you really should think about making a backup before you proceed. Volume re-sync is drive intensive, and any drive close to failure has a higher chance during it. Then, the best way to proceed is to swap the drive with power on, especially for a previously formatted drive. The NAS will tell you you removed and then inserted the drive, and will complain the "new" one has data on it. At that point, you select it and click "format". Don't format it outside the NAS first, it won't help. But you can remove all partitions and avoid the format step when it's inserted in the NAS if you choose.
BTW, the data on the drive from the previous installation on the NAS, it isn't usable since it's an incomplete part of a RAID array..
Fantastic answer and GREAT timing.
I worded the NAS performance poorly, it is displaying DATA DEGRADED. And no other drive is showing any sign of failure. However, I am prepared to replace the older ones (4 TBs). So your answer gives great hope. You're assumptions are right on regarding the lack of backup. Yes, I know. Wet noodle lashes.
Funny thing about the backup, I had an old ReadyNAS NV with 6 TB X-RAID volume and was going to set that up to backup the most critical stuff. It hasn't been running for 2 years. Plugged in and touched the power button, lit and immediately went off. Touched again. POP and stink!! So much for the back up plan. LOL
One more question if I may: I had pulled all the good drives (NAS powered off) and inserting only the replacement drive with data. Then I tried to format the replacement to prepare it. But the NAS kept coming back with "Drive Part of a RAID volume." and would not format. Of course, this drive used to be part of the current volume 2 years ago. I then considered performing a FACTORY DEFAULT with the replacement drive in place only. But some nagging voice in me said, "Don't do it." I was concerned that the NAS (diskless) still had some configuration with the 5 good RAID volumes and if I FACTORY DEFAULT, there would be a problem when I migrated the 5 back into place (correct order, of course.)
True or False?
You're advice is greatly appreciated and your teaching a very old dog, new tricks.
creifle wrote:
I then considered performing a FACTORY DEFAULT with the replacement drive in place only. But some nagging voice in me said, "Don't do it." I was concerned that the NAS (diskless) still had some configuration with the 5 good RAID volumes and if I FACTORY DEFAULT, there would be a problem when I migrated the 5 back into place (correct order, of course.)
True or False?
All the NAS configuration info is stored on the hard drives. There is a small (4GB) OS partition on each drive - configured as RAID-1 (all drives mirrored). The system boots from that partition. So the answer is false.
The NAS should have let you reformat the drive. Likely it was confused since the drive was once part of the array. If you can connect it to a PC, you could reformat it there (And then reformat again when you hot-insert it into the NAS). If you do a factory default with only that drive in place, I suggest switching to flexraid and destorying the data volume before shutting the NAS down. Then restore all the other drives in place in their slots (leaving the slot for the replacement empty). Then power up the NAS and hot-insert the replacement drive after the boot is complete. You might still need to format it though.
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