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BJB
Mar 18, 2018Aspirant
Disk spin down or power down wakeup
I would like to set my RN424 and RN104 so that they sleep most of the time unless called up by windows explorer, a backup program attempt to access, an rsync routine, a streamer drive share access, o...
- Mar 19, 2018
BJB wrote:
I hear you on proving if spin down helps disc longevity. If I used them even once or twice daily I would not spin down. But that is not the case.
Other than one backup a week, my use of my NAS is absolutely random and not that frequent (once I have them setup right). They could go a full 7 days without being accessed.
Well, at the end of the day I have have spin-down enabled on my NAS. I was just giving you my reason, which might not be the same as yours. Which is fine of course, there is room for more than one view on the pros and cons of spindown.
BJB wrote:
Reading all the input above.....it sounds like when I get my live-NAS to backup-NAS Rsync job setup (the Rsync one-time copy worked great, thanks) I can make sure that they are not spun down during those times so that one NAS to NAS share is copied.
There's no real need to disable spindown when the backups are scheduled. Even the 5-minute spindown is enough to keep the disks spinning while the backups are running. I only turn off spindown on the main NAS when we tend to use it. So media players won't have a big delay when we use them, etc. It's always on in the backup NAS.
BJB wrote:
If simply using windows file explorer triggers the WOL, turning on WOL on the NAS units might be good enough for me.
It doesn't (and your browser won't trigger it either). You need a utility that sends the WOL "magic packet". So it's a way I can remotely trigger the NAS power-up, but there's nothing automatic about it.
BJB wrote:
As far as my PC backup to the NAS using a PC backup imaging program that is another issue. Turns out unless the PC is on at that time it won't run.
My PC imaging software also runs on a power schedule (and windows has a way for the backup program to wake up the PC). So I coordinate the two schedules on my desktop PCs - setting the NAS to power on at (for example) 12:00, and telling the backup to start the image backup at 12:05.
I do the laptops manually, since I don't want them to power on automatically.
BJB
Mar 19, 2018Aspirant
Thanks to both for your thoughts.
Stephen,
I hear you on proving if spin down helps disc longevity. If I used them even once or twice daily I would not spin down. But that is not the case.
Other than one backup a week, my use of my NAS is absolutely random and not that frequent (once I have them setup right). They could go a full 7 days without being accessed. So the events-based power timer (which basically operates the way I thought power timer On/off worked anyway, don't see the distinction) doesn't seem to be the 100% solution for me. I can't predict the random times I am using and don't want to just spind down every night.
Reading all the input above.....it sounds like when I get my live-NAS to backup-NAS Rsync job setup (the Rsync one-time copy worked great, thanks) I can make sure that they are not spun down during those times so that one NAS to NAS share is copied. So that might be a forced "on" using the events-based power timer? So "on" during those times and "off" all others unless woken up by WOL. Or is it "off" PLUS disk spin down?
If simply using windows file explorer triggers the WOL, turning on WOL on the NAS units might be good enough for me. If I set the spindown timer to 24, they would stay spundown all day unless a WOL command is sent from say accessing the admin page or windows file explorer? And then they would stay spun up for an hour? Is that right?
As far as my PC backup to the NAS using a PC backup imaging program that is another issue. Turns out unless the PC is on at that time it won't run. When I next wakeup the PC I can run it and the NAS would have to be on but I could wakeup by just running windows file explorer before executing the backup since I am doing it manually anyway...
In short...I think? I turn on WOL, turn on disk spindown with the appropriate number of hours, force a turn-on for my Rsync job using evets-based timer. Then leave on for disk spin-down to turn off until WOL triggers it again?
Thanks,
BJB
StephenB
Mar 19, 2018Guru - Experienced User
BJB wrote:
I hear you on proving if spin down helps disc longevity. If I used them even once or twice daily I would not spin down. But that is not the case.
Other than one backup a week, my use of my NAS is absolutely random and not that frequent (once I have them setup right). They could go a full 7 days without being accessed.
Well, at the end of the day I have have spin-down enabled on my NAS. I was just giving you my reason, which might not be the same as yours. Which is fine of course, there is room for more than one view on the pros and cons of spindown.
BJB wrote:
Reading all the input above.....it sounds like when I get my live-NAS to backup-NAS Rsync job setup (the Rsync one-time copy worked great, thanks) I can make sure that they are not spun down during those times so that one NAS to NAS share is copied.
There's no real need to disable spindown when the backups are scheduled. Even the 5-minute spindown is enough to keep the disks spinning while the backups are running. I only turn off spindown on the main NAS when we tend to use it. So media players won't have a big delay when we use them, etc. It's always on in the backup NAS.
BJB wrote:
If simply using windows file explorer triggers the WOL, turning on WOL on the NAS units might be good enough for me.
It doesn't (and your browser won't trigger it either). You need a utility that sends the WOL "magic packet". So it's a way I can remotely trigger the NAS power-up, but there's nothing automatic about it.
BJB wrote:
As far as my PC backup to the NAS using a PC backup imaging program that is another issue. Turns out unless the PC is on at that time it won't run.
My PC imaging software also runs on a power schedule (and windows has a way for the backup program to wake up the PC). So I coordinate the two schedules on my desktop PCs - setting the NAS to power on at (for example) 12:00, and telling the backup to start the image backup at 12:05.
I do the laptops manually, since I don't want them to power on automatically.
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