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Error during drive upgrade - RN104 with Seagate NAS HDD ST4000VN000
Dear support, I just got a brandnew Seagate NAS HDD ST4000VN000 4TB NAS Drive. When I was doing upgrade, I am getting this issue. It remained there and the drive status is showing offline. I tho...
Fresh update:
After several attempts removing and once again building/syncing, it is producing the error: ERR: Used disks. Check RAIDar.
14th Apr, I purchased a new 3TB WD Blue drive (WDC WD30EZRZ desktop drive). I need this new HDD as a multipurpose buffer/spare/archieve/snapshot especially situations like these. After several reliability tests. Took the entire backup of my NAS data in the same. This took several hours due to 15MBps read/download speed. Anyway glad that I can able to read/retrieve everything. The WD Blue drive also worked very reliably so far. And noticed its temperature profile which is much better than Seagate.
Yesterday: 15th Apr, once the backup is 100% complete from NAS to WD Blue 3TB drive. Data is intact. Then I did a fresh NAS build. I built this time initially with 1TB Laptop HDD, 128GB SSD, 2TB Desktop HDD, (and removed the 4TB Seagate NAS HDD for a moment), this has reduced the fresh volume build/sync to just 12-14 hours.
The new build is successful. I documented the whole process in my Youtube VLOG (screen-capture):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0scDC239s
Once done everything, this time I set Network port mode initially: Active Backup
Benchmarked (1TB HDD, 128GB SSD, 2TB HDD): 23.5MB/s write, 26MB/s read
morning 16th Apr,
I changed initially to mode: Transmit Load balance: 30.2MB/s read, 26.4MB/s write
later I parmanently changed to mode: Adaptive Load balance: 31.6MB/s read, 27.5MB/s write
I managed dumping back some of the data from 3TB WD Blue drive to NAS since last night.
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Since now that NAS done 100% sync/rebuild, I now added back the 4TB Seagate NAS HDD in slot-4.
It started resync. May be once it is fully done, I may do once again a fresh benchmark of read/write.
It is a great learning curve. I think in future I may shift 100% to SSD Drives.
I see a great temperature difference between HDD vs SSD even in intense load.
I hope once it is all set, I never want to disturb again.
But its a great experience. I can see the future HDDs will become obsolete very soon by 2018-2019. SSDs are going to dominate and eventually replace HDDs.
Right now HDD manufacturers are able to make huge capacity drives, but they are also lacking in reliability. We can compare this aspect with older drives (2000, 2005, 2009 manufactured), vs the HDDs manufactured these days. So I may never buy again a mechanical HDD :)
Hello kiran_kankipati,
Have you already checked the disk?
Regards,
Thank you JennC for followup. Well I returned the same back to Amazon for refund. Amazon accepted the same.
Looks like the drive is faulty. Not only that the same model what I got already in NAS (Seagate ST4000VN000 NAS HDD)
also looks suspecious with ever increasing Seek Errors. And the other Seagate 3TB Drive too.
Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 (AF)
Device Model: ST3000DM001-1CH166
Serial Number: Z1F5Z7KF
Model Family: Seagate NAS HDD
Device Model: ST4000VN000-1H4168
Serial Number: W301AZC6
Ever since that day I removed the new 4TB Drive, now when I put back 3TB drive it is doing fresh volume build/sync
and it is taking around 50+ hours. Not just that once it is complete, it is no longer booting and displaying the error:
error used disks check raidar
So I removed the 3TB drive, removed all partitions (created by Netgear in a PC) and again slotted in the NAS.
Initally NAS device showed around 10 hours to rebuild, but now it is showing around 30+ hours. Looks like
the drive is having issues.
After a dig down, looks like both models of Seagate are having issues. Same reported by Backblaze.
And these articles:
Seagate faces class-action lawsuit over 3TB hard drive failure rates
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222267-seagate-faces-lawsuit-over-3tb-hard-drive-failure-rates
CSI: Backblaze – Dissecting 3TB Drive Failure
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/
So I got a major task this weekend.
Option 1) is to get a brand-new WD HDD, possibly first dump entire NAS contents into the same.
Delete NAS RAID volume/factory reset. And build the NAS volume from scratch again with trusted drives.
(or)
Option 2) remove the 3TB, and slot the new WD HDD. Once it gets stable, remove the other Seagate 4TB drive too.
Get replacement 3TB, and 4TB Seagate drives meanwhile, since they both are still covered under warranty.
BTW, Seagate support suggested me to diagnose via SeaTools for DOS - Bootable .ISO
I tried but it is not detecting any drives. Just none of the drives attached to PC/laptop it is detecting.
Tomorrow I am going to service center to replace 3TB drive.
So I updated my Home Lab HDD/SSD records:
http://www.the-toffee-project.org/index.php?page=15-my-hard-disk-and-ssd-logs-for-research
In a deep trouble due to Seagate :(
Hello kiran_kankipati,
I do hope you have backup of the data.
Regards,
Fresh update:
After several attempts removing and once again building/syncing, it is producing the error: ERR: Used disks. Check RAIDar.
14th Apr, I purchased a new 3TB WD Blue drive (WDC WD30EZRZ desktop drive). I need this new HDD as a multipurpose buffer/spare/archieve/snapshot especially situations like these. After several reliability tests. Took the entire backup of my NAS data in the same. This took several hours due to 15MBps read/download speed. Anyway glad that I can able to read/retrieve everything. The WD Blue drive also worked very reliably so far. And noticed its temperature profile which is much better than Seagate.
Yesterday: 15th Apr, once the backup is 100% complete from NAS to WD Blue 3TB drive. Data is intact. Then I did a fresh NAS build. I built this time initially with 1TB Laptop HDD, 128GB SSD, 2TB Desktop HDD, (and removed the 4TB Seagate NAS HDD for a moment), this has reduced the fresh volume build/sync to just 12-14 hours.
The new build is successful. I documented the whole process in my Youtube VLOG (screen-capture):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0scDC239s
Once done everything, this time I set Network port mode initially: Active Backup
Benchmarked (1TB HDD, 128GB SSD, 2TB HDD): 23.5MB/s write, 26MB/s read
morning 16th Apr,
I changed initially to mode: Transmit Load balance: 30.2MB/s read, 26.4MB/s write
later I parmanently changed to mode: Adaptive Load balance: 31.6MB/s read, 27.5MB/s write
I managed dumping back some of the data from 3TB WD Blue drive to NAS since last night.
------------------
Since now that NAS done 100% sync/rebuild, I now added back the 4TB Seagate NAS HDD in slot-4.
It started resync. May be once it is fully done, I may do once again a fresh benchmark of read/write.
It is a great learning curve. I think in future I may shift 100% to SSD Drives.
I see a great temperature difference between HDD vs SSD even in intense load.
I hope once it is all set, I never want to disturb again.
But its a great experience. I can see the future HDDs will become obsolete very soon by 2018-2019. SSDs are going to dominate and eventually replace HDDs.
Right now HDD manufacturers are able to make huge capacity drives, but they are also lacking in reliability. We can compare this aspect with older drives (2000, 2005, 2009 manufactured), vs the HDDs manufactured these days. So I may never buy again a mechanical HDD :)
It's not going to be tomorrow that SSDs price per TB will be at the level of HDDs.
Less than $400 for a 10TB HDD: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST10000VN0004/dp/B01IA9GU0Q
$1400 for a 4TB SSD: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E4T0B-AM/dp/B01G844OOO/
Or more than $5000 for >10TB SSDs.
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