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PredatorVI
Jun 06, 2017Tutor
Move existing drives from RNDP6000 to RNDP600E ... is it possible?
My ReadyNAS Pro 6 (RNDP6000v2) power supply bit the dust. They are sending me a newer unit via RMA but the OS and X-RAID configuration won't be compatible with the old drives. There may be a data r...
- Jun 07, 2017
What NAS model are they sending you?
PredatorVI wrote:
I am looking to see if I could put the old drives in a functioning RNDP600E in a way that will allow me to mount the XRaid volume and transfer the data off to the new unit intact.
That works, though it'd be good to put the same firmware on the 600E before you do it. If you skip this step, the system will update the OS on the disks to match whatever is in the flash. That often has no bad effects, but if the firmware is very mismatched it can cause problems.
If there are no drives in the 600E, you can temporarily install a scratch disk, then match the firmeware. If you aren't sure what you were running in the pro, then install the latest firmware (4.2.31).
StephenB
Jun 07, 2017Guru - Experienced User
What NAS model are they sending you?
PredatorVI wrote:
I am looking to see if I could put the old drives in a functioning RNDP600E in a way that will allow me to mount the XRaid volume and transfer the data off to the new unit intact.
That works, though it'd be good to put the same firmware on the 600E before you do it. If you skip this step, the system will update the OS on the disks to match whatever is in the flash. That often has no bad effects, but if the firmware is very mismatched it can cause problems.
If there are no drives in the 600E, you can temporarily install a scratch disk, then match the firmeware. If you aren't sure what you were running in the pro, then install the latest firmware (4.2.31).
- mdgm-ntgrJun 07, 2017NETGEAR Employee Retired
I wouldn't buy such an old unit. That's buying an older unit than what failed with a less powerful CPU. Though if you already have the Pro Pioneer that's different.
If support doesn't have stock of your unit they may at their discretion offer to replace it with a comparable newer model.We have a process you can follow: ReadyNAS: Migrating disks from RAIDiator 4.2 to ReadyNAS OS 6 (x86)
Essentially we try to boot RAIDiator-x86 4.2 off the disks so that you can backup your data.
If the replacement chassis is running very, very old firmware it can be a good idea to update the firmware to something a bit more recent using a scratch disk (must not be from your array). Don't need to be on the very latest for this. You could make sure that it's running 6.5.2 or later for example. Then power down, remove the scratch disk, move your disks across (keep the order the same) and see if it will boot up fine.
If it does then there'd be no need for any contract unless you have problems copying your data off or restoring it and decide you need help from support with that.
- StephenBJun 07, 2017Guru - Experienced User
mdgm wrote:
Though if you already have the Pro Pioneer that's different.
I was assuming he already had it. I agree that buying one isn't the best idea, unless the price is really good.
- SandsharkJun 07, 2017Sensei
You said that "they" are sending a "newer unit" via RMA. If "they" is Netgear, then refuse the unit because the RNDP600E is not a newer unit than the RNDP6000-200 and whoever you were talking to at Netgear needs some training. If your initial unit was an RNDP6000-100 (Readynas Pro Business Edition) instead of a RNDP6000-200 (ReadyNAS Pro6), then the hardware is the same but the firmware options and warranty are different. But there should be no RNDP6000-100's still under warranty to get an RMA while some RNDP6000-200's are. Now, if you misunderstood and they are sending an RNDU600P (Ultra 6 Plus), then the hardware is the same as the RNDP6000-200.
But all these units do run the same firmware (4.2.x by design, 6.x by unsupported upgrade) and the drives can be moved between them so long as the firmware versions are the same.
- PredatorVIJun 07, 2017Tutor
Thanks! That's what I needed. For the other responses, I'll add some clarification that might help.
What I have: RNDP6000 (6 x 2TB) running ReadyNAS OS 4
Replacement Unit: RN51600 running ReadyNAS OS 6
The support agent told me that I can NOT move the old drives to the new unit as it will reformat the drives because of the way OS 6 differs from OS 4. He said they MAY have a data recovery option I could purchase to migrate the data. He didn't have details on pricing yet and I did not clarify what that would entail.
So I am now investigating:
- Will it be cheaper to find a used ReadyNAS running the same OS 4 family to either transfer the old drives to OR use the power supply to get my old unit to power on and migrate the data?
- Will it even work?
- I may have found an RNDP600E and wondered if this would work. I think the answer is yes for using an equivalent OS4-based unit.
I'm still waiting on whether it will be cheaper. :)
- StephenBJun 07, 2017Guru - Experienced User
mdgm-ntgr linked in the process support was talking about in his post - https://kb.netgear.com/29957/ReadyNAS-Migrating-disks-from-RAIDiator-4-2-to-ReadyNAS-OS-6-x86
It lets you mount the volume read-only, then you have to copy it to other storage. Then do the regular install, and copy the data back.
- SandsharkJun 07, 2017Sensei
Since you said it was an "RMA", I assumed you had to return the old unit. If you never have to return it, it is quite easy to hook up an ATX supply to allow you to move the data and even to totally replace the supply. But doing so will void the warranty, and you don't want to return it for RMA with evidence that you've opened it, or you might find yourself paying retail for the new NAS.
The RNDP600E can also be used to recover your data if you need to be able to move it directly to the new NAS and not via an intermediate storage device. As for cost, you could always sell the old units to make it up, but you may want to hold onto one as a backup, since it seems you don't have one at this time.
An RN516 for an RNDP6000-200 is quite a step up, so good for you.
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