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khopper's avatar
khopper
Aspirant
Apr 08, 2014

Offsite backup between 2 RN...step by step

Hi Everyone. I have a Pro Pioneer model. A family member has a Ultra 4 model. Both boxes work great in our respective networks, real happy. What we want to do is schedule an offsite backup of each other's RN, so we both have an offsite backup. No cloud service fees, no reliance on a 3rd party, we are fully in control of our data and what happens to it. Sounds good in theory, except neither of us are very experienced in this stuff. But we both enjoy learning and would like to give it a go.

Both homes are using Macs, no Windows machines involved.

What we know :
- do a first copy over the same LAN, for speed and cost purposes. Across the two datasets we have over 1TB of data.
- Rsync seems to be an efficient way to go, and we have enabled the service on both boxes through Frontview...not sure how you actually make it happen though!
- neither box has SSH capability that we can tell...neither of us has experience with SSH for that matter, but we want this done securely and from our reading SSH is a prerequisite.
- I have also set up a URL for both boxes via DynDNS, which I use for FTP, hence no worries with IP addresses changing.
- I'm comfortable with how to do port forwarding if required (and I suspect it will be)

So...

1) How do we get SSH happening on the two boxes (if we actually can). If that's not possible, what other cost effective options do we have for creating secure transfers?

2) how do we go about setting this process up, from beginning to end, step by step, so that it just works reliably and safely? Preferably directly from readyNAS to ReadyNAS with no involvement from any Macs in the process.

Apologies if anything I've said here is dumb.

Thanks.

1 Reply

  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User
    Nothing dumb.

    rsync over ssh is integrated into the "business" products - but the ultra-4 isn't one. There used to be a community add-on to fill that gap, but it is no longer available for download.

    Getting/installing VPN routers in both locations is an option. That joins the two networks into one, so you both need to be comfortable with doing that. All traffic between the two LANS would be secured by the VPN.

    You could also try to find a backup utility for the Mac that (a) supports network drives as a source and (b) uses FTPS (FTP over explicit TLS - which is encrypted). That would let you run the backups on the Macs, with the target being the remote NAS FTP server. If you can find such a utility, it is probably your simplest approach.

    A third approach is to hack your systems to run OS6. You'd lose Netgear support (unless you migrated back), but it would give you rsync over ssh. You'd be rebuilding both NAS from scratch (loss of configuration and data). I include this for completeness, I am not particularly recommending it - unless you are really looking to maximize your learning experience! There are threads here on how to do that.

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