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AMRivlin
Mar 21, 2013Apprentice
OS6 now works on x86 Legacy WARNING: NO NTGR SUPPORT!
Update: It is now unofficially possible using NTGR images to update legacy hardware to os6.X
See Post #3, for directions to install 6.2.1 on x86 Ultra and Pro Models. (ARM NOT SUPPORTED by this OS)
Be forewarned, this requires a SYSTEM WIPE and likely voids any warranty support from NTGR
Supported so far: pro 2/4/6, ultra 2/4/6, old pro / Pioneer Pro, 2100v2
Not Supported: NVX and 2100v1
Thanks go out to "HomeBrew Anonymous" for making this possible.
Update 2: A firmware image to downgrade back to 4.2.26 is now available. See this thread. While this downgrade should get you a working system again on the supported firmware, be forewarned this requires a SYSTEM WIPE and NetGear also does not provide support for this downgrade. If you have issues seek help on these forums.
Original Post/Gripes
I have been reading these forums since Monday's announcement and there has been a resounding "ooof" regarding the fact the Ultras and Pros are unsupported for future OS improvements.
To clear the air: it would appear Netgear will never support os6 on past hardware. I have almost come to grips with this, and at least they have been open and honest with their forward direction and aren't stringing us along. viewtopic.php?f=138&t=70131
The upside is our devices still work and are mostly stable and eventually we can upgrade to a new shell that has os6 support, but in the meantime our $500-1000 investment is unable to take advantage of modern features we all desire.
I don't think I can add a poll here at RN forums, but I would like to garner support for a 100% unsupported home brew of the os6 on Pro6 units.
If we get enough support perhaps a talented member(s) here would help release a homebrew of sorts.
The 3 main caveats are:
1. Netgear will never be held responsible/your warranty is void
2. A format is required (new FS and OS)
3. Data loss is highly possible
If you are still interested please post a reply to this thread.
mdgm and I have decided that its time to lock this thread. So please do post any new OS6 on Legacy issues on their own threads.
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- pywongAspirantDo you think it's possible to just edit /etc/sensors.conf and use sensord to control the fan speed?
- AMRivlinApprenticeYes, I am running my fans a little loud/fast (it is in a closet) but I haven't experienced any over heating or other issues.
As for the genie/apps. After seeing it the offering and store, you will realize, you don't want or need it. It is reminiscant of google app store version 0.1
Sideload. - chirpaLuminarybajorgensen, the same trick may work on the ARM image in the 6.0.4 zip file. But not sure if anyone has tested it. Since the newer ARM boxes are a more recent ARM CPU, there may be kernel specifics that won't work on the Duo v2 chip. If someone has an ARM box to risk, it can be tested.
- bajorgensenAspirantNice one Horim! Should make it even easier to try out OS6, having an easy fallback.
mdmg:Doubt it, but if you're game to try and it works then great. If you have a Duo/NV+ v2 you may be interested in this project (no support from NetGear for this, of course): http://natisbad.org/NAS/index.html
I am watching him. Very positive that he is commiting code upstream. I have a Ultra, but native linux support will be a plus for the community.
(and if he packages his development into an image that can be flashed, ARM users will rejoice! I am sure...)The script is encrypted so unless you can decrypt it that's not an option. Also I think there probably would be a check in the init script run on boot as well. That script is compiled as a stripped binary so you wouldn't be able to replace that.
Argh! Why oh why do you do this Netgear?There is the option to buy one of the new models. Then you would be able to use all features. My beta RN312 unit is a new favourite in my ReadyNAS collection. They are great devices.
They truly are. But for me, with a perfectly functioning Ultra 6, upgraded with custom fans, 4 GB memory and soon VGA output, I just need a SW upgrade.
And while some argue that OS4 will continue to be supported, that does noe seem to be the case IMO. Progress it voefully slow, and long outstanding issues are not fixed.
The only reason for me to upgrade would be for OS6 and HDMI output. If Netgear can make a proper media player with the HDMI out, that would be a single reason for me to upgrade.
But - with a history of abandonment that Netgear are showing now, I fear being left behind at the next crossroad. What is the life expectancy of the new units?
I had a DUO and was it was obvious that the SPARC platform was abandoned mid-life. Netgear has not redeemed themselves with the OS6 release. Quite the opposite.bajorgensen wrote:
Anyone gone back to RAIDiator 4? Can the disks just be replaced back for some easy testing?
It is possible to go back (e.g. doing a USB Boot Recovery) but you would need to do a factory default (wipes all data, settings, everything) to wipe the disks and setup a new array.
Do I need to do a factory reset even if I swap disks out, test OS6 on new disks, recover OS4 with original disks? - chirpaLuminaryIf you are swapping disks, just USB boot recovery should be enough. The installed OS is on the disks themselves.
- chirpaLuminary
jeremyotten wrote: Can they be downloaded and installed manual?
Looks like a simple apt-get can fetch the apps; viewtopic.php?p=390362#p390362
And for apps that have the same name as packages already in the distro, you can pick the repo: viewtopic.php?p=389485#p389485 In that case, why do you need an icon in your GUI that a console only app is installed? Just install the base console app. - bajorgensenAspirant
bajorgensen, the same trick may work on the ARM image in the 6.0.4 zip file. But not sure if anyone has tested it. Since the newer ARM boxes are a more recent ARM CPU, there may be kernel specifics that won't work on the Duo v2 chip. If someone has an ARM box to risk, it can be tested.
True. Those SOC chips can be a bit pesky.
It is Armada 300 vs Armada 370 on the new units. I've looked at the source, and it seems like the 370 has a separate patchset.
Linux kernel 3.8 has unified ARM support, and I think it would make life much easier for Netgear going forward.
I was a bit surprised that they are using the 3.0 kernel. Maybe OS6 has been under development for too long,
or that Marvell only has a patch set to the 3.0 kernel. Has anyone done any analysis for the source yet?
It seems to me that OS6 is a hodgepodge of squeeze, wheezy, sid and experimental!?!?! (KUDOS for SAMBA 4.0.3, I _really_ want that)
Earlier it was easy to see Netgear patches, but this time I cannot see if there are any Netgear patches at all... :( - AMRivlinApprentice
chirpa wrote: jeremyotten wrote:
And for apps that have the same name as packages already in the distro, you can pick the repo: viewtopic.php?p=389485#p389485 In that case, why do you need an icon in your GUI that a console only app is installed? Just install the base console app.
The only reason for the icon, is the ability to start / stop the app in question.
On a side note apt-get install htop puts an icon in my frontview - chirpaLuminaryAnd what good does that icon do? You can't start/stop a console/ssh interactive app.
- mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee Retired
bajorgensen wrote:
I was a bit surprised that they are using the 3.0 kernel. Maybe OS6 has been under development for too long
NetGear mentioned the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel on FaceBook. I think that is based on the 3.0 kernel. So if NetGear is using GPL for the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel to get stuff to make BTRFS work that might explain why it is on kernel 3.0 on the x86_64 devices. Since the x86_64 devices are on that kernel then they'd probably want the ARM devices to be on the same kernel version to make it easier to update both OSes at the same time.
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