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Guillaume_R
Apr 21, 2020Aspirant
My RN102 is painfully slow
Hi everyone, I’ve had some difficulties using my RN102 for a long time. Transfer rates are actually more or less ok, but it’s the access times (right-click, access folders, copying a file…) that ...
StephenB
Apr 21, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Guillaume_R wrote:
Here's the data from disk_info.log :
...
There appears to be no btrfs errors on system.log
Then I stopped the scrub operation that has been running for two days on my NAS, ran NAS-PT again,
and got 31,8Mb/sec (write) and
22,5mb/sec (read).
So, according to the data I posted, is everything back to normal ?
First, the disks do look healthy. The scrub was obviuosly having a big effect
I haven't run NAS-PT, but I think it is likely that it would indicate slower speeds than NASTester (http://www.808.dk/?code-csharp-nas-performance ). NasTester is doing large file transfers, so it is basically a best cast for the NAS.
So things probably are back to normal, though maybe retest with NAStester and let us know what numbers it gives.
Still, 2 days is a really long time for a 3 TB RAID-1 scrub. Do you have disk spindown enabled?
Guillaume_R
Apr 22, 2020Aspirant
Good morning Stephen,
I just ran NASTester (doing nothing else with my PC), here are the results :
Running a 400MB file write on A: 5 times...
Iteration 1: 32,13 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 31,71 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 34,58 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 35,47 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 35,43 MB/sec
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Average (W): 33,87 MB/sec
-----------------------------
Running a 400MB file read on A: 5 times...
Iteration 1: 26,74 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 26,70 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 25,79 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 24,54 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 26,18 MB/sec
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Average (R): 25,99 MB/sec
-----------------------------
Running a 400MB file write on X: 5 times...
Iteration 1: 35,73 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 35,70 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 36,47 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 34,40 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 36,66 MB/sec
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Average (W): 35,79 MB/sec
-----------------------------
Running a 400MB file read on X: 5 times...
Iteration 1: 26,83 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 26,87 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 26,60 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 26,47 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 26,38 MB/sec
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Average (R): 26,63 MB/sec
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Running a 400MB file write on Y: 5 times...
Iteration 1: 35,96 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 36,40 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 35,86 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 36,47 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 36,39 MB/sec
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Average (W): 36,22 MB/sec
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Running a 400MB file read on Y: 5 times...
Iteration 1: 28,36 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 26,79 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 26,90 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 27,08 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 27,03 MB/sec
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Average (R): 27,23 MB/sec
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That looks pretty good to me ?
I agree on the long time it takes for the scrub. Maybe the fact I was working on the NAS in parallel didn't help (silly me...).
I don't have any spindown activated. Actually, my config is pretty basic and factory-settings type.
One thing that would be really interesting for me is basically a "How to properly configure your Nas" kind-of guide. Could you recommand some good ressource on-line ? I have tried back in the days, but never found something satisfying to me.
Thank you !
- StephenBApr 22, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Guillaume_R wrote:
I just ran NASTester (doing nothing else with my PC), here are the results :
Average (W): 33,87 MB/sec
Average (R): 25,99 MB/sec
Average (W): 35,79 MB/sec
Average (R): 26,63 MB/sec
Average (W): 36,22 MB/sec
Average (R): 27,23 MB/secThat looks pretty good to me ?
Here are the results I get with my own RN102 (which currently has 2x1TB Ironwolf disks):
Running a 400MB file write on \\10.0.0.13\music 5 times... Iteration 1: 78.07 MB/sec Iteration 2: 73.84 MB/sec Iteration 3: 79.04 MB/sec Iteration 4: 78.94 MB/sec Iteration 5: 75.21 MB/sec ----------------------------- Average (W): 77.02 MB/sec ----------------------------- Running a 400MB file read on \\10.0.0.13\music 5 times... Iteration 1: 70.18 MB/sec Iteration 2: 69.20 MB/sec Iteration 3: 70.13 MB/sec Iteration 4: 70.34 MB/sec Iteration 5: 69.70 MB/sec ----------------------------- Average (R): 69.91 MB/sec -----------------------------
This test was run on a Windows 10 desktop with an SSD hard drive. I don't think the different disks in our NAS will affect the results much (if at all).It's possible that Windows 7 might slow your speeds down some, since it is using SMB 2.1 instead of SMB 3.
One aspect here is that the test results do depend on the speed of the local computer drive. So try benchmarking your PC disk, and see how well it performs. If your local disk is reasonably fast (~100MB/sec is typical for a 3.5" mechanical disk), then I think your NAS could be faster. Though if your performance is good enough for you, then you could leave well enough alone.
If your volume is very old, then one thing you could try is
- backing up the files
- do a factory reset, and reconfigure the NAS
- restore the files from backup
I did this myself some time ago, and it did boost the speed quite a bit.
You could also try doing the balance, and let it run to completion. Then see if that makes any difference.
Guillaume_R wrote:
One thing that would be really interesting for me is basically a "How to properly configure your Nas" kind-of guide. Could you recommend some good ressource on-line ?
I don't know of a really good resource for this. There is a post in the idea exchange which suggests settings on the RN100 series, though I don't personally agree with all of the recommendations.
It is important to not allow your data volume to become too full. Generally you want to keep it at least 20% free space.
I suggest turning off services in system->settings->services that you don't use. My RN102 has SMB, RSYNC, HTTP, HTTPS, UPNP, and ReadyDLNA enabled there. If you don't use Rsync or ReadyDLNA, you could turn those off (along with UPNP).
On the volume settings wheel, I disable checksums on the RN102. That will improve performance some. I keep quota enabled. That can hurt performance a bit, but it also lets me see more details on disk space usage - which I find is worth a small performance penalty.
In the share settings, I have Bit Rot Protection turned off (and also Auto Defrag). Bit Rot Protection will effect performance some. I don't know if Auto Defrag is a big factor.
I don't use the "smart" snapshots - the reason why is that the oldest snapshots are never deleted. Instead I use Custom snapshots, with "only take snapshots with changes" set. Generally I set the retention to 3 months, and set the schedule to take snapshots daily. This gives me some ability to roll back to older file versions, without consuming a lot of disk space. Turning snapshots off altogether is another approach, but I do occasionally use the rollback feature.
I do recommend running the maintenance tasks on the volume settings wheel on a schedule. I run each of them (balance, scrub, disk test, defrag) once every three months on my own NAS.
However, the scrub and disk test will slow performance when they are running. The tradeoff on those two is that running them regularly can identify disk or file system issues before the disks actually fail. But of course if the performance hit is too severe, then you can't really use the NAS. So you could adjust the frequency of those to a slower schedule if you want.
Balance and Defrag should normally complete fairly quickly (once you get the balance to complete the first time). Generally if they take too long, the best thing to do is run them more often.
- Guillaume_RApr 30, 2020Aspirant
Hello Stephen,
Since your last post, I tried to follow several of your advices :
- I disabled READYDLNA
- I disabled UPnP
- I disabled SMART snapshots and followed your method (Good for me since it saved a lot of space)
- I did a BALANCE (Took 40 minutes to complete)
- I did a DEFRAG (Took 3h30 to complete)
- I finally did a SCRUB (Took a bit less than 2 days. Actually it took 12 hours to get past 5% and then it went on "relatively" (sic) quickly).
All this to... find quite the same results with NAS Performance Tester :
April 22nd :
A - Average (W): 33,87 MB/sec | Average (R): 25,99 MB/sec
X - Average (W): 35,79 MB/sec | Average (R): 26,63 MB/sec
Y - Average (W): 36,22 MB/sec | Average (R): 27,23 MB/sec
April 30th (This one I tried linking directly NAS to PC with a 5e cable, without the hub) :
A - Average (W): 34,39 MB/sec | Average (R): 26,26 MB/sec
X - Average (W): 35,12 MB/sec | Average (R): 28,89 MB/sec
I also tried to run NAS Perf tester from my local SSD drive... to get the same results.
Overall, in a day-to-day working routine, I detect a *slight* improvement when navigating / browsing the files (maybe it's all in my imagination, though). Still, I'd like to understand, I'm sure I can do better here !
Thanx again !
- StephenBApr 30, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Do you have a spare disk?
If you do you can remove the current disks (labeling by slot), and then do a fresh install on the spare. Then benchmark that.
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