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ReadyData EOL and convert to ReadyNAS
With the announcement of EOL on the RD5200 and RD516, is there a chance that we can get code to reflash the devices to act as a ReadyNAS. I understand it would not be the same as the new hardware, bu...
Well I guess either you didn't read the question, or you didn't care, both of which are a great disapointment.
I understand which OS is targeted currently against which hardware. Specifically I asked is there some way Netgear can make available a version of the NAS software that we can run on the Readydata hardware.
I well remember the conversation with the Netgear rep when you were pitching against NetApp and Netgear assuring me that you were going to be further developing the ReadyData range so I could be assured of future products in the range. That was only 24 months ago. Now having invested in 7 of the units I am faced with scrapping them.
But wait, Netgear could help all the other folk just like me. Find a way to port the NAS software to our ReadyData, then we can at least use it for something.
If you ever want to be taken seriously in the "business / enterprise" market you have to be able to differenciate between yourselves and your competitours. I can buy tin anywhere, it's the support for the tin that is the real value, and currently your answer makes the Netgear tin I purchased worthless.
As you've seen mentioned elsewhere on the community the ReadyNAS firmware can run on it, but doing so is not supported.
The RDD516 has the same hardware as the RN516 except the RDD516 has 16GB ECC RAM vs 4GB ECC RAM in the RN516.
ReadyDATA may be EOL, but you can still use ReadyDATA OS.
ReadyDATA OS 1.4.4 no longer requires that hard disks be signed so long as they are 512n: ReadyDATA OS 1.4.4: Using unsigned drives
ReadyNAS OS 6 doesn't require signed disks on any firmware on any device it will run on.
Thanks for that. I had seen the previous post and was after clarification.
Are you or anyone able to clarify the position on the RD5200 being the same and having the ability to run (unsupported perhaps) the ReadyNAS 06 software. I have 2 of the 5200's both fully populated. I have the SSD cache read and write drives in one but could pull them if it were not supported (and I have not seen mention of them in the docs on ReadyNAS I have seen so far) but happy to be corrected.
Perhaps Netgear might consider supporting such a transition if enough people wanted the option. I am sure for the effort of making it supported you might win back some of the support from customers who have purchased in good faith and are now questioning Netgear as a true Enterprise enabled company, and just want a reasonable migration path. I would not even mind if it required a maintenance contract, as I would then see more value in the kit I have purchased.
I accept the new kit wil be faster, and having a migration path to more speed but same OS (were I able to get ReadyNAS 06) would encourage me to stick with Netgear in the future. I am sure you have already depleted all stock of the RD series, but if you have not then you could always update them and sell them on rather than having them sitting in a warehouse.
OS6 can use SSDs but it doesn't support SSD caching. SSD caching would be something suitable for the Idea Exchange.
Hi,
This is Doug, product line manager for the network storage products at NETGEAR.
The RD5200 is now getting quite old and not sustainable to meet the current and next-year performance demands of data backup, especially in a VM environment. Here are some numbers we have measured. I want to emphasize that these are not "official" data yet and are only published in the community for "power users" consumption.
Following are IOPS, all in RAID6 configuration, with the same Seagate ST3000DM001 Drives
SMB RR4312X RD5200
4k random write (20GB file) 10895 187
4k random read (20GB file) 120150 178
4k sequential write (20GB file) 15348 11488
4k sequential read (20GB file) 206654 14603
iSCSI RR4312X RD5200
4k random write 2998 442
4k random read 104138 300
4k sequential write 30356 21490
4k sequential read 200226 23245
RR4312X costs significantly less and outperforms by a mile against RD5200. I would very much encourage you to take a look at the spec and try it out. I am quite certain that you would not regret moving to ReadyNAS 4312X from ReadyDATA. We have already moved Replicate to ReadyNAS and are calling it ReadyDR.
Please let us know how we can make your transition smoother.
Holiday greetings and best regards,
Doug
Hi Doug,
The RD5200 and RD516's we purchased are just 24 months old, so whilst IT moves at a fast pace, in typical business investment terms they have at least three years to run before we would normally have to replace. Typically when we upgrade we cycle the kit down, so the once primary storage becomes secondary, and the old secondary becomes archive etc. With both NetApp and Dell Equalogic the same code / frontend has been available, we just buy in faster tin.
I totally understand the new chassis that replaces RD series are much faster, and more importantly will have more development in the future. If I were purchasing from scratch they would be high on my list, both in cost and performance.
So back to the original question, for those of us who supported Netgear in the development cycle (because we had faith and went with you folk) and purchased the RD series which you promoted as the way forward for business users, just want Netgear to spend a little development time and make a supported upgrade of code available on the RD series.
I would then be able to continue using my RD series as backup targets for the RR4312X series, so the existing investment is not scrap, and I would have a clear migration path, all using same code/terminology. I can buy a RR431x chassis, configure it all up, transfer all my data from the RD5200, then reimage the RD chassis as the replication / backup target.
The key word you use is "transition", and the ability to run the same code on the RD would greatly assist a seamless transition. To me it would be the difference between "rip and replace" and "upgrade". Upgrade encourages me to stick with Netgear. Rip and replace encourages me to look elsewhere at the competition.
This all looks a bit long winded, but I hope it gives you some understanding into what we are asking.
Obviously as it's christmas a RR4312x chassis from the Netgear Santa would be very nice.
Nick
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