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ReadyNAS v2 (RND4000) & WDTV Live Streaming issue
Firstly the following error does occur when I use the WDTV Live Streaming via an attached USB stick, nor when I watch movies from my Synology NAS (which I tried just for testing as that NAS is used fo...
What file transfer speeds are you getting with the NAS?
The tests I have done:
write
* 5.7GB took about 2min30secs (Win7 says 37MB/s)
* 5.5GB about 2min20secs (35MB/s)
* 4.3GB about 2mins (34MB/s)
read
* 5.5GB about 60secs (58MB/s)
* 2.95GB about 30secs (65MB/s)
* 7.5GB about 1min40secs (75MB/s)
Do all the problem files work perfectly on the synology?
I randomly selected about 30 (of the ones that do not run well from the ReadyNAS), and tried them on the Synology, and they all appear to run without any problems, I was only able to watch 5 all the way thru, but I know what parts each file plays up at (for example 10,000BC starts playing up at 10mins) and tested those areas on the other 20 odd from the Synology, and there are no errors/catch ups at all.
What equipment
The media equipment is basically all upstairs and runs as so:
* ReadyNAS NV+ v2 (cat6 cable [port 1 on switch])
* HP Procurve switch 1410-8G
* Synology DS211j (cat6 [port 8])
* WDTV Live Streaming (cat6 [port 3])
* WDTV Live {older style (2 of)} (cat6 [ports 4 and 5])
* to internet router/downstairs (cat6 [port 2])
* to PC (rarely on and was turned off for testing) (cat6 [port 6])
The Synology can do this (using Network Shares), play say Avatar (8171Kbps video bit rate / DTS audio [from MediaInfo]) to WDTV Live (all 3 at the same time without any trouble, and to an Astone MP-310DT {downstairs, and thru a second HP Procurve 1410 located downstairs}), or I could play 4 different movies, all with high bit rate video / DTS audio, and it will do it. However, even if I turn off everything except the ReadyNAS / WDTV Live Streaming / HP switch / TV / fridge, I cannot play even 1 movie with high video bit rate / DTS audio, from the ReadyNAS to the WDTV which run off of the same switch. I have also tried the other WDTV devices, and the Astone device, and none will play using Network Shares without interruptions unless I change to playing them thru DLNA (not sure if the Astone has DLNA receiver).
A file that almost works perfectly (there is some artifacting using Network Shares, but else is watchable):
This file will not play past about 11mins without constant (10-20secs) freezing:
This one will also only go about five minutes or so and then play catchup:
I looked at the Synology (jumbo frames are off) so I guess that does not matter. Also, the HDD's in the ReadyNAS are 2xSeagate SATA3 3TB 7200RPM Barracuda 64mb Cache while the Synology only has 2xSamsung 2TB Spinpoint F3/4EG EcoGreen HDD 32M, so I would assume that the ReadyNAS should pump out more MB/s, which is seems to as the average write on the Synology is only about 25-30MB/s, and read at best is 65MB/s (according to Win7 pc).
I was thinking about putting a different HDD in bay 3 of the ReadyNAS (I have a spare Samsung 300GB HDD), but I am unsure how I could tell the system to then create a directory only on that HDD so I could copy a file to it and test it (to see if it is anything to do with the HDD's)? The only way I can think of is to shut down the ReadyNAS, remove the 2 Seagate HDD's and pop in the 300GB HDD, but I do not know if that will effect the data on the Seagate HDD's (would hate to loose it all)?
Anyway, thanks for the help so far.
The tests I have done:
write
* 5.7GB took about 2min30secs (Win7 says 37MB/s)
* 5.5GB about 2min20secs (35MB/s)
* 4.3GB about 2mins (34MB/s)
read
* 5.5GB about 60secs (58MB/s)
* 2.95GB about 30secs (65MB/s)
* 7.5GB about 1min40secs (75MB/s)
Do all the problem files work perfectly on the synology?
I randomly selected about 30 (of the ones that do not run well from the ReadyNAS), and tried them on the Synology, and they all appear to run without any problems, I was only able to watch 5 all the way thru, but I know what parts each file plays up at (for example 10,000BC starts playing up at 10mins) and tested those areas on the other 20 odd from the Synology, and there are no errors/catch ups at all.
What equipment
The media equipment is basically all upstairs and runs as so:
* ReadyNAS NV+ v2 (cat6 cable [port 1 on switch])
* HP Procurve switch 1410-8G
* Synology DS211j (cat6 [port 8])
* WDTV Live Streaming (cat6 [port 3])
* WDTV Live {older style (2 of)} (cat6 [ports 4 and 5])
* to internet router/downstairs (cat6 [port 2])
* to PC (rarely on and was turned off for testing) (cat6 [port 6])
The Synology can do this (using Network Shares), play say Avatar (8171Kbps video bit rate / DTS audio [from MediaInfo]) to WDTV Live (all 3 at the same time without any trouble, and to an Astone MP-310DT {downstairs, and thru a second HP Procurve 1410 located downstairs}), or I could play 4 different movies, all with high bit rate video / DTS audio, and it will do it. However, even if I turn off everything except the ReadyNAS / WDTV Live Streaming / HP switch / TV / fridge, I cannot play even 1 movie with high video bit rate / DTS audio, from the ReadyNAS to the WDTV which run off of the same switch. I have also tried the other WDTV devices, and the Astone device, and none will play using Network Shares without interruptions unless I change to playing them thru DLNA (not sure if the Astone has DLNA receiver).
A file that almost works perfectly (there is some artifacting using Network Shares, but else is watchable):
General
Complete name : Z:\Movies\ADVENTURE\Journey To The Center Of The Earth\Journey To The Center Of The Earth (2008)_{BD}.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 2.95 GiB
Duration : 1h 32mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 4 567 Kbps
Movie name : Journey To The Center Of The Earth (2008)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-10 18:07:37
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.4.0 ('Die Wiederkehr') built on Oct 31 2010 21:52:48
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 836 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.077
Stream size : 2.48 GiB (84%)
Title : Journey To The Center Of The Earth (2008)_video
Writing library : x264 core 104 r1683 62997d6
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : Yes
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 424 MiB (14%)
Title : Journey To The Center Of The Earth (2008)_audio
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
This file will not play past about 11mins without constant (10-20secs) freezing:
General
Complete name : Z:\Movies\ADVENTURE\10,000 BC\10,000 BC (2008)_{HD}.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 5.49 GiB
Duration : 1h 48mn
Overall bit rate : 7 217 Kbps
Movie name : 10,000 BC (2008)
Encoded date : UTC 2013-05-01 19:21:47
Writing application : mkvmerge v6.1.0 ('Old Devil') built on Mar 2 2013 14:32:37
Writing library : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.0
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 9 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 48mn
Bit rate : 5 715 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.353
Stream size : 4.23 GiB (77%)
Title : 1280*536 5715Kbps 23.976fps (h264)
Writing library : x264 core 120 r2164 da19765
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=9 / deblock=1:-4:-4 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=42 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=2 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=28 / scenecut=62 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5715 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : Yes
Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 1h 48mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.15 GiB (21%)
Title : 7.1 48KHz 1510Kbps 24bit (dts)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
This one will also only go about five minutes or so and then play catchup:
General
Complete name : Z:\Movies\ACTION\Bad Boys\Bad Boys 1 (1995)_{BD}.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 6.55 GiB
Duration : 1h 58mn
Overall bit rate : 7 892 Kbps
Movie name : Bad Boys 1 (1995)
Encoded date : UTC 2013-02-02 05:11:21
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.4.0 ('Die Wiederkehr') built on Oct 31 2010 21:52:48
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 58mn
Bit rate : 6 389 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 688 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.85:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.303
Stream size : 5.17 GiB (79%)
Title : Bad Boys 1 (1995)_video
Writing library : x264 core 96 r1602 69588a7
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=6389 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : Yes
Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 1h 58mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.25 GiB (19%)
Title : Bad Boys 1 (1995)_audio
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : Yes
I looked at the Synology (jumbo frames are off) so I guess that does not matter. Also, the HDD's in the ReadyNAS are 2xSeagate SATA3 3TB 7200RPM Barracuda 64mb Cache while the Synology only has 2xSamsung 2TB Spinpoint F3/4EG EcoGreen HDD 32M, so I would assume that the ReadyNAS should pump out more MB/s, which is seems to as the average write on the Synology is only about 25-30MB/s, and read at best is 65MB/s (according to Win7 pc).
I was thinking about putting a different HDD in bay 3 of the ReadyNAS (I have a spare Samsung 300GB HDD), but I am unsure how I could tell the system to then create a directory only on that HDD so I could copy a file to it and test it (to see if it is anything to do with the HDD's)? The only way I can think of is to shut down the ReadyNAS, remove the 2 Seagate HDD's and pop in the 300GB HDD, but I do not know if that will effect the data on the Seagate HDD's (would hate to loose it all)?
Anyway, thanks for the help so far.
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