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BJB
Jul 04, 2021Aspirant
Remove a folder/share password on RN424
Greetings, I have a Folder on my RN424 that I initially setup with a password just on that folder. It has valuable data in it and I do not want to lose access to it. How do I remove the passwor...
- Jul 05, 2021
BJB wrote:On all my shares, Network Access shows "Everyone" group, "admin" group, and "admin" individually. 3 checks AND Anonymous is checked. Additionally, my backup share has the account I created called PCAcceXX. Also, allow Anonymous access is NOT checked for the Backup share.
File Access is the same for all my shares. "Everyone" group, "Folder Owner", "Folder Group", "admin" group and "admin" individually.
You can just allow Anonymous access on the backup share, and that should give you the same access rights as the others.
BJB wrote:
But I know the backup program (logged in as PCAcceXX) can write to the folder but it does not have file access?
It does have file access, because "Everyone" includes PCacceXX.
BJB wrote:
Does anonymous not just give read access but read/write to any share where it is checked and basically makes all the other network and file access account permissions moot?
It's a bit more subtle than that.
"Everyone" in the Network Access list means "All NAS accounts". So in your case it would mean admin and PCacceXX (and any other account you set up on the NAS).
"Anonymous" means "accept logins that don't have corresponding NAS accounts". This is also called "guest" access, and there actually is a hidden guest account that the NAS uses when it accepts anonymous login. However, there are a couple of cases where your login will be denied even if anonymous is checked. You'd be denied access to all shares if your PC was set up to use the PCacceXX (or admin) username, but with the wrong password. That's because a username that doesn't exist on the NAS is treated differently from a username combined with the wrong password.
On file access, "anonymous" will give you access when you have "everyone" checked.
BJB
Jul 05, 2021Aspirant
StephenB @StehpenB
I am sorry. I have all of my settings and know what is differerent but still not 100% sure how I got here. But I do not want to mess things up and now I think I might just leave it.
On all my shares, Network Access shows "Everyone" group, "admin" group, and "admin" individually. 3 checks AND Anonymous is checked. Additionally, my backup share has the account I created called PCAcceXX. Also, allow Anonymous access is NOT checked for the Backup share.
File Access is the same for all my shares. "Everyone" group, "Folder Owner", "Folder Group", "admin" group and "admin" individually.
But I know the backup program (logged in as PCAcceXX) can write to the folder but it does not have file access? On Network access that is the only difference between all my shares other than anonymous is not checked.
And under permissions on the main share screen, Backup share says PCAcceXX and admin. Every other share says Anonymous.
Does anonymous not just give read access but read/write to any share where it is checked and basically makes all the other network and file access account permissions moot?
If I want to make backup globally accessable for read/write like the other shares without a password can I just check anonymous? Or even though those shares are anonymouse way back when my windows PC explorer logged into them?
I am setting up a new backup program and I do not want to have to deal with the username and password in order to do a backup. If I check anonymous would that make the backup folder accessable like that?
Or.....even if I change it, would it still require me to put in my admin credentials to access that share?
I did read the FAQ on this but maybe it was my day off but still confused...
Thanks,
BJB
StephenB
Jul 05, 2021Guru - Experienced User
BJB wrote:
On all my shares, Network Access shows "Everyone" group, "admin" group, and "admin" individually. 3 checks AND Anonymous is checked. Additionally, my backup share has the account I created called PCAcceXX. Also, allow Anonymous access is NOT checked for the Backup share.
File Access is the same for all my shares. "Everyone" group, "Folder Owner", "Folder Group", "admin" group and "admin" individually.
You can just allow Anonymous access on the backup share, and that should give you the same access rights as the others.
BJB wrote:
But I know the backup program (logged in as PCAcceXX) can write to the folder but it does not have file access?
It does have file access, because "Everyone" includes PCacceXX.
BJB wrote:
Does anonymous not just give read access but read/write to any share where it is checked and basically makes all the other network and file access account permissions moot?
It's a bit more subtle than that.
"Everyone" in the Network Access list means "All NAS accounts". So in your case it would mean admin and PCacceXX (and any other account you set up on the NAS).
"Anonymous" means "accept logins that don't have corresponding NAS accounts". This is also called "guest" access, and there actually is a hidden guest account that the NAS uses when it accepts anonymous login. However, there are a couple of cases where your login will be denied even if anonymous is checked. You'd be denied access to all shares if your PC was set up to use the PCacceXX (or admin) username, but with the wrong password. That's because a username that doesn't exist on the NAS is treated differently from a username combined with the wrong password.
On file access, "anonymous" will give you access when you have "everyone" checked.
- BJBJul 05, 2021AspirantThanks for an awesome and complete reply!
So if a backup program is run on my PC (new one is Trueimage) which already has admin credentials passed to the NAS, it may just login and access if it inherits those credentials. If not, I would need to embed my admin login or PCAceXX (if PCAceXx is listed in the share like now) credentials in the backup program.
And......Anonymous would give a PC on my network that has never seen the NAS read/write access to that share's files, including backup if I checked the box correct?
Thanks,
Bill- StephenBJul 06, 2021Guru - Experienced User
BJB wrote:
And......Anonymous would give a PC on my network that has never seen the NAS read/write access to that share's files, including backup if I checked the box correct?Yes, assuming that your PC login isn't admin or PCAceXX (with a different password).
You could switch it to read-only with some changes to the config if that was desired.
BJB wrote:
So if a backup program is run on my PC (new one is Trueimage) which already has admin credentials passed to the NAS, it may just login and access if it inherits those credentials. If not, I would need to embed my admin login or PCAceXX (if PCAceXx is listed in the share like now) credentials in the backup program.Yes. Though if anonymous is enabled, then it might not need NAS credentials at all.
- BJBJul 06, 2021AspirantI am just going to enable anonymous access on my Backup share. That's it.
Based on my reading, I do not need to hit reset if all I do is this as I do not want to set all permissions of the share to default. Do I have that right?
Does it need to change the permissions on all existing files in that share if I just do this?
Thanks,
BJB
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