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ArchPrime
Sep 10, 2019Guide
RN102 migrating to ReadyNAS Ultra 6
Hi, I am lookingto establish the optimal migration process from my RN102 (Arm based CPU), containing 2 x6TB drives currently set up as individual volumes under JBOD and holding roughly 6TB of data, ...
ArchPrime
Sep 11, 2019Guide
OK, I cant seem to erdit my own post, but I posted the wrong drive specs for the RN102 I am trying to migrate from
It currently contains 1 8 TB drive and on 4 TB drive - not 2 6TB drives as I had mentioned.
If Raid 5 will cost me the space on the the largest drive, 8TB is a big hit - wondering what strategy might now be optimal to maximise storage given this new info?
StephenB
Sep 11, 2019Guru - Experienced User
Ok. So you have 6x2TB in the Ultra now, and you want 4x2TB+4TB+8TB.
If you use XRAID in the Ultra, then you'd end up with a 12 TB RAID-5 volume (sum the disks and subtract the smallest), which actually does match the total space you have on the RN102 now. But it is wasting 4 TB of space (and is only 2 TB bigger than your current volume size). You can fix that by upgrading one of the remaining 2 TB drives to 8 TB - but when you do that you will run into one of the expansion limits of the 4.2.x firmware. You can overcome that by converting the Ultra to OS-6 now (while it is still empty).
Another option is to switch to flexraid on the Ultra, and create a 4x2TB RAID-5 volume (6 TB capacity). Then create 4 TB "D" RAID-0 volume and an 8 TB "E" RAID-0 volume. Then you'd have 18 TB of space across the 3 volumes, with one volume having RAID redundancy.
A third option is to leave the disk configurations as they are for now, and use the RN102 to back up the Ultra. That assumes that 10 TB is large enough to do what you want.
You should of course first check that your FTP problem is resolved by the Ultra. If it isn't, you could then convert it to OS-6 and retest.
- ArchPrimeSep 11, 2019Guide
Thanks Stephen. Very helpful as always!
The Ultra6 already has OS6.10.2 set up by previous owner.
Is X-Raid incompatible with manually denoting say one or two of the 6 disks in the Ultra6 chassis as separate JBOD volumes? Or am I stuck with using FlexRaid if I want to do that?
I was thinking maybe have 5x2Tb in raid 5, the 8TB as JBOD volume, and sticking the 4TB disk in my PC, giving me 16TB total in the NAS.
Over time, as and when I upgrade or replace one of the 2TB drives, say another 8Tb drive, that coud be my prompt to kill the 8TB JBOD volume and let it merge with X-Raid volume at same time?
Would be nice if X-Raid could handle the expansion of that volume automatically for me, rather than making me start again (which Flex Raid seems to need?)
Meanwhile I figure that whatever happens with the bottleneck FTP issue, I am probably better off comitting to migrating to the Ultra6 anyway as fundamentally better hardware?
- StephenBSep 11, 2019Guru - Experienced User
With OS-6, Flexraid is more flexible (also a bit more complicated). You can
- switch to flexraid
- destroy the current volume
- remove two disks
- re-create the a new RAID-5 volume. Choose a volume name that doesn't match the ones on the RN102.
You should then be able to export the volumes on the RN102 and then add those two disks to the Ultra. It should import the volumes and the shares. Note I haven't needed to export/import myself - but Sandshark has played around with this, so hopefully he will chime in.
Do make sure you have a backup of the RN102 files though - there's always a chance something will go wrong.
ArchPrime wrote:The Ultra6 already has OS6.10.2 set up by previous owner.
Is X-Raid incompatible with manually denoting say one or two of the 6 disks in the Ultra6 chassis as separate JBOD volumes? Or am I stuck with using FlexRaid if I want to do that?
XRAID only handles one volume. So you will need to use FlexRaid.
ArchPrime wrote:
I was thinking maybe have 5x2Tb in raid 5, the 8TB as JBOD volume, and sticking the 4TB disk in my PC, giving me 16TB total in the NAS.
That of course will work too.
ArchPrime wrote:Over time, as and when I upgrade or replace one of the 2TB drives, say another 8Tb drive, that coud be my prompt to kill the 8TB JBOD volume and let it merge with X-Raid volume at same time?
Switching back to XRAID doesn't always work. But if you leave the RAID-5 volume untouched, you should be able to destroy the 8 TB jbod volume. Then switch back to XRAID and add the disks. It'd be best to unformat the jbod disk, so the NAS isn't confused when you re-insert it.
If you left a slot empty, you could also leave the 4x2TB volume alone, and convert the 8 TB volume to RAID-1. That path would preserve the data on the jbod volume.
- SandsharkSep 11, 2019Sensei
Actually, you can move the drives from the 102 to the Ultra running OS6 and not lose the data. That is one of the advantages of updating a legacy NAS to OS6. You should delete any apps if you are moving between ARM and Intel CPU, as you are. You can re-install them after the migration.
You just can't do it and leave any existing drives in the new unit (Ultr, in your case). And you can't put the original drives form the new one back in and get to any data on them (at least through the GUI) unless you first exported them. But since the 2TB's are empty, you don't care about any data on them, which makes it a lot easier.
I assume you want to add the two 2TB drives to the array, which you can't do if you start with an array of larger drives unless you originally started with at least one 2TB drive.. And, that's the rub. At some point, to get full use of the new drives, you are going to have to start fresh, meaning backing up the data and restoring it. If you think you did at one point start your 102 array with 2TB drives, post the contents of MDSTAT.log from the log ZIP and let us confirm it. In that case, you should be able to add the 2TB's to the existing 102 array once mounted in the Ultra.
I think your best bet (assuming no such luck as having started with 2TB on the 102) is to move the old drives from the 102 to the Ultra, switch to FlexRAID, and then make a separate RAID1 volume out of the 2TB's. That'll give you 2TB more, though you'll have to manually distribute files between the volumes. There is actually a way to make them part of the same volume "under the hood" with SSH, but once you do, the OS may not know how to do additional expansions. And if you're not at last a little familiar with Linux, something could go horribly wrong.
It's not the most efficient use of the drives, so, at some time in the future, add another 8TB, copy the data from the 2TB volume over to the larger one, and retire the 2TB's.
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