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Any chance that LAG will be available on the GS308E in future firmware updates?
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Looking into the refreshed GS308Ev4 model documentation does not shine more light - the same confusion as before remains. IphieChen Iphie_C YeZ
GS308Ev4 User Manual p.55 ff. does clearly refer to the ability for configuring to static LAG - just like the similar GS305EP, GS305EPP, GS308EP, GS308EPP
GS305E and GS308E Datasheet (D-GS305E/GS308E-24May24)
I won't buy any GS308Ev4 or GS305Ev4 just to find proof what (DS, UM, or the effective product) is wrong. This is what Netgear product managers are paid for 8-)
I also came here after a long research and I am sad and disappointed at the same time. -.-
comstar_3068 SYN ACK - thank you for coming back to your previous comments
- LAGG Protocol
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The operating modes for LAGG interfaces are: LACP, Failover, Load Balance, Round Robin, and None.
- LACP
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The most commonly used LAGG protocol. ---> borrowed this text from the pfsense software, derived from FreeBSD. in the Netgear plus switch context, only Load Balance and Round Robin are meaningful. LACP isn't available <---
- Failover
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When using the Failover LAGG protocol traffic will only be sent on the primary interface of the group. If the primary interface fails, then traffic will use the next available interface.
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By default, traffic may only be received by the active interface. Create a system tunable for
net.link.lagg.failover_rx_all with a value of1 to allow traffic to be received on every member interface.Failover mode has one additional option:
- Failover Primary Interface
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This option sets the primary interface for failover mode, or auto to allow the firewall to select the primary interface automatically. In auto mode, the first selected interface in the list is primary.
Each non-primary interface is eligible for use in failover if the primary fails.
- Load Balance
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Load Balance mode accepts inbound traffic on any port of the LAGG group and balances outgoing traffic on any active ports in the LAGG group. It is a static setup that does not monitor the link state nor does it negotiate with the switch. Outbound traffic is load balanced based on all active ports in the LAGG using a hash computed using several factors, such as the source and destination IP address, MAC address, and VLAN tag.
- Round Robin
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This mode accepts inbound traffic on any port of the LAGG group and sends outbound traffic using a round robin scheduling algorithm. Typically this means that traffic will be sent out in sequence, using each interface in the group in turn.
- None
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This mode disables traffic on the LAGG interface without disabling the interface itself. The OS will still believe the interface is up and usable, but no traffic will be sent or received on the group.
- Description
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A short note about the purpose of this LAGG instance.
LAGG Interface Configuration
To create or manage LAGG interfaces:
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Navigate to Interfaces > Assignments, LAGGs tab
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Add to create a new LAGG, or click
to edit an existing instance.
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Complete the settings as described in LAGG Interface Settings
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Click Save
After creating a LAGG interface, it works like any other physical interface. Assign the lagg interface under Interfaces > Assignments and give it an IP address, or build other things on top of it such as VLANs.
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My mistake. I read GS308 and not the EPP part of NerdBit's post which caused confusion. I incorrectly just assumed we were still discussing the GS305/8E specifically.
That said, assuming the datasheet didn't change at some point as well, you're also right. I should have read it. Instead I just relied on the marketing material for a not exactly essential piece of hardware to use in the home. Live and learn, I suppose.
fabriks wrote:
To be fair, there isn't much available option-wise in the GUI. Just LAG1 (Choose from 1,2,3,4 port) LAG2 (Choose from 5,6,7,8). and a toggle bar to choose which one. In my case I had chosen LAG2 (Port 7 and Port 8 ) and toggled the little button to "green".
This does reflect the two LAGs which can be defined, For LAG1 from the ports 1..4, and for the LAG2 from the ports 5..8. The green indicators just show the enabled state.
schumaku my bad! apologies, didn't have any wrong intention to start an argument. It was my sheer frustration with false advertising of "product spec and definition process".
As a well-known and respected brand, it wouldn't hurt to look at the competition and reflect on how explicitly they make mention on their lower-mid-end switches supporting static aggregation only.
As I'm trying to get this set up for a volunteer-run not-for-profit company, the time, and troubleshooting it has taken has done my head in.
The goal was straightforward:
DIY Router/Firewall appliance ---> Setup LAGG on x2 ports ---- SWTCH ----> Access Point.All works well from either end, except for the Link aggregation bit as the switch does not support LACP protocol.
Would you be willing to help in setting LAG correctly on this switch, suppose it would be Static Aggregation now. To be fair, there isn't much available option-wise in the GUI. Just LAG1 (Choose from 1,2,3,4 port) LAG2 (Choose from 5,6,7,8).
and a toggle bar to choose which one. In my case I had chosen LAG2 (Port 7 and Port 8 ) and toggled the little button to "green".
From your exp, is there anything I may have overlooked?
comstar_3068 Reading specs and data sheets can be cumbersome. Can't see much false advertising. The data sheet can be considered as a basic legal framework - for evaluating and buying hardware. The equation LAG == LACP is definitively wrong.
Afraid, I don't understand why you start arguing about LACP LAGs with me here - I'm just yet another user, not Netgear in any aspect (beyond of getting the opportunity to beta test some Netgear hardware every now and then in my spare time.
All the GS305E and GS308E Data Sheet show "Number of Static Manual LAGs and # of members: GS305E N/A GS308E N/A".
All the GS305EP GS305EPP GS308EP GS308EPP GS316E GS316EPP Data Sheet does show "Number of Static Manual LAGs and # of members: GS305EP 2/4 GS305EPP 2/4 GS308EP 2/4 GS308EPP 2/4 GS316EP 8/8 GS316EPP 8/8"
All the GS305E and GS308E Data Sheet show "Number of Static Manual LAGs and # of members: GS305E N/A GS308E N/A".
This is what confused me, because I know from the chip set specs (as reflected in the GS305EPP and GS308WP/EPP) the five and eight port do support static LAG - and how ever, this is missing or went lost in the product spec and definition process. his is why I tried to bring some attention to NTGR
Slightly different is the situation on the WAX6xx, like the WAX630E. Technically equipped with a 2.5Gbps Power-over Ethernet and a 1Gbps Ethernet ports, one additional 1GbE port for network redundancy or link aggregation to enhance reliability or throughput.
A short excursion to RT*M unveils (bold text for clarification)
Enable link aggregation for the LAN 2 port
You can set up a static link aggregation connection between the access point and a switch by doing the following:
1. On the switch, configure static link aggregation on the two Ethernet ports that you intend to use for the LAG connection to the access point.
CAUTION: To prevent a network loop, configure the switch ports before connecting them to the access point ports.
2. Connect the two Ethernet ports on the switch to the LAN 1 port and the LAN 2 port on the access point.LACP link aggregation is neither a holy grail nor a necessity for such a configuration. Nice your security appliances have it, it does not help in this context. A basic static LAG support would be sufficient.
Hint: Balance-XOR mode, where the bonding of slave interfaces are static and all slave interfaces are active for load balancing and fault tolerance purposes is the way to go.
comstar_3068 hey comstar! thanks for the prompt response/reaction. It's extremely sad and disappointing that this seems to have been a case of false advertising-based sales, while other manufacturers explicitly state on the switches that it's a "static aggeration" only which makes decision making much easier.
