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demonic1
Dec 28, 2016Star
Status:
Engineering Investigation
Never rebuild a configuration from scratch again!
I understand that a developing product needs updates. Sometimes these updates require changes to what data is expected for an element of the settings config. As a customer, when a firmware update is incompatible with my settings, it is absolutely unacceptable that I would have to re-build my entire config from scratch after updating firmware. Netgear may not be able to update my settings but you should at least give us a tool to fix it. It is NEVER ok to lose a customer’s hard work, that’s just bad business. Here is how we fix it:
- Give us a tool to download the config in a human-readable format. I don’t care if it is TXT, CSV, XLS, or whatever… Just give us something we can work with.
- With every firmware update, the “release notes” should include details of ANY changes to the settings requirements so we know what to adjust in our human-readable files. (ex: “The [setting] field for [control] on [screen] is now restricted to numeric characters.”) This points us directly to a potential problem. Netgear just needs to track such things and release the info with every update.
- Maintain a “white paper” with a list for the requirements/limitations for every settings value. This goes with number 2 above to allow us to fix problems.
- Along with item 1 above, we need to be able to upload this human-readable settings file back to the device.
- Auto settings debugger: When an attempt is made to upload a human-readable settings file, a check should automatically be performed to see if the file being uploaded conforms to the latest established rules. Any errors should be identified with the specific item and what the fault is. In the event of an error, the user should be prompted to override or abort with “abort” as the default. In the event of success, the config is uploaded with a success confirmation.
This isn’t rocket science here. I get that you need to do things that could break my old config. All we are asking is that you give us the tools to fix it. To reiterate my earlier point, “Start over” is NEVER an ok thing to tell a customer.
This one feature set would also solve several other problems:
- uploading a port forwarding list
- maintaining a block list
- revising routing tables
All of these items would be downloaded/uploaded in one shot with the above suggestions.
As an organizational note: If the human-readable download were actually a ZIP file it could contain multible human-readable files where any setting containing lists could actually be seperate files within the ZIP. Maybe all the settings could be broken out into files containing relevant sections instead of a single long list. If you need to take it in small bites, fine. Dump everything into a single human readable file for now, add the error checker later, break the file into smaller relevant pices when you get the time. I don't much care how you break down the task, just give us a took to fix the things you break and provide it sooner rather than later. We need items 1 & 4 yesterday, the rest will be nice when you can get to it.
Thank you for your consideration.
45 Comments
+1! crazy that I need to reconfigure my entire setup when an update comes out...
It is time for This brand to shake the coconut tree and speed up a little things!!!!
- michaelkenwardGuru - Experienced User
It would help if people could point to other makers who do provide this feature. There is nothing like a bit of competition to keep a company on its toes.
Sadly, we may be in chipset country, where all the people who make network kit use the same chipsets. So the whole industry is stuffed.
michaelkenward I can only say one thing let's hope that we are heard in high places!!
- William10aMaster
Why could the router be setup in the firmware to read a usb drive to record and reload the settings with a coded feature id for each setting all the new firmware would have to do is load the settings back to the correct spots and you may have to enter new settings for new features not a perfect answer but would help.
They should be ashamed of themselves upstairs because it is easy to provide customer that solution by rethinking completly the way they managed their devices!!
The OS is proprietary and the hardware too so no excuses!!!!!! Unless it's like what is happening with today's cars the manufacturers do not master their tech and 20y/o piece of tech is better coded and handeled than today's PC a router has more power than a 20y/o laptop!! Because they had limited ressources and they used the OS properly!!!!
Get back to the drawing board and design!!!!
This could be achieved by a well coded Genie solution!!!
- michaelkenwardGuru - Experienced User
it is easy to provide customer that solution by rethinking completly the way they managed their devicesThe idea that "it is easy to provide" this change is at odds with the suggestion that the answer is "rethinking completely the way they managed their devices".
The concepts "completely rethinking" and "simple" do not belong in the same sentence. If it were that easy, it would have happened.
Let's keep this discussion in the real world.
You can transfer completly your old data phone from brand X to the new one from brand Z so why a manufacturer can't do it on its own devices?!!!
- michaelkenwardGuru - Experienced User
That's different technology that transfers data in standard formats. JPEG, Gif, RTF etc.
Try transferring your settings between phones.
And don't even think about transferring the settings between Windows and Mac.
Far from "simple".
- William10aMaster
They should as long they do not changed the locations where they stored the data and requirements of the data in that location. The people who write the code for the devices for netgear seem not insure that memory locations are not rewrote that had set up data from before they know the memory map of the vram they used in the router and what was using at the time.