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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

clmoore3rd
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How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

How can I confirm if my C6300 AC1750 is having hardware problems?

 

I started having intermittent internet connection issues around May, approximately two years after I purchased the device.  Connection would periodically go out, and come back.  This week it was particularly bad.  Called the ISP who said they couldn't contact the device.  Technician came out, checked all the lines, confirmed the signal is good, and even installed new lines to the drop.  Since he installed a T-splitter to knock down the signal to about 5dB, because it was coming in "hot" at around 8-10dB, he was able to monitor it in parallel with a signal meter.  Of course then it didn't go down....  All the while he was here he never saw the signal drop out on the meter.  He observed that the LED lights on the device went out and came back.

 

It was ok for a day, then started acting up again.  The C6300 periodically resets itself, all the LED's go out, then eventually come back on.  And when they're back on, the internet still doesn't work.  The reset issue makes me think maybe the power supply is becoming questionable.  All the lights on but no internet connection.

 

I don't have a spare power supply.  How can I troubleshoot further to confirm that the C6300 is having hardware issues?

Model: C6300|AC1750 Cable Modem Router Docsis 3.0
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clmoore3rd
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

Unexpected intermittent power reset issue confirmed as a hardware problem.  Just purchased a new modem router and no further intermittent internet troubles.  T3/T4 timeout issues were a byproduct of modem loss of power and reboot, coincidental with power reset events.  New modem has had no T3/T4 timeouts in the event log.

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FURRYe38
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

Have a friend, family member or neighbor you can take the modem to and test at a different location? 

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clmoore3rd
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

Thanks, but since the ISP needs the MAC address of the device it's a bit difficult to just try it at another location, with same ISP

 

I've noticed that each time the internet drops out that all the LED lights go out on the front panel of the C6300.  Then, they gradually come back on, and then the spotty internet connection persists.

 

Around the time of the device reset, the Event Log has this entry: 

 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

Doesn't seem like a T3 timeout should cause the device to spontaneously reset....  In my experience with embedded controls, spontaneous resets are caused by software bugs, or looming hardware failure.  Something in the line, or signal, shouldn't cause a downstream device reset.

 

If there was a bug in the firmware, I'm sure lots of people would be affected and Netgear would issue an update.  So it's probably not a bug.  Based on my experience I'm tending to think sudden reset of the C6300 is caused by either power supply problem, or modem/router electronics problem.

 

Signals seem to look good, when the internet is working.  And when the internet isn't working, the router also doesn't seem to be working, takes a bit to reboot and all lights to come back online with connection to 192.168.0.1 restored.  At which point the signals look fine again.

Model: C6300|AC1750 Cable Modem Router Docsis 3.0
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FURRYe38
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

Rnaging issues are mostly a ISP line signal issue. 

 

Can try to find a differnt power supply. Get a different modem and see if this different modem does the same thing or not. 

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clmoore3rd
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

@cybrmstrwhat ended up being the root cause of your issue?

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Cable-Modems-Routers/C6300-Randomly-Rebooting/td-p/1306871

What you describe sounds very similar to what's happening to my C6300.

 

It's a bit of chicken or egg, does the T3 time-out cause the unit to power cycle, or does the power cycle of the unit then cause the T3 time-out?  I can't believe that a network communications timeout would cause the unit to power cycle reboot.....

 

 

TimePriorityDescription
Oct 13 2020 01:02:02Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 13 2020 00:35:44Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 13 2020 00:34:02Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 12 2020 18:25:52Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 12 2020 15:18:50Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 12 2020 14:48:23Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 12 2020 14:40:48Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 12 2020 14:37:52Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 12 2020 14:35:39Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 12 2020 14:30:29Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 12 2020 14:18:10Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 12 2020 06:58:13Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 12 2020 06:51:28Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 12 2020 05:24:40Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 11 2020 22:38:14Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 11 2020 22:36:16Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Oct 11 2020 22:35:52Critical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 11 2020 22:35:21Critical (3)REG RSP not received
Oct 11 2020 22:35:21Error (4)T6 Timeout and retries exceeded
Oct 11 2020 22:35:10Critical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 11 2020 22:35:09Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 11 2020 22:13:43Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Oct 11 2020 19:05:24Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 11 2020 19:03:22Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Oct 11 2020 19:00:46Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 11 2020 18:58:55Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Oct 11 2020 18:56:13Error (4)Map Request Retry Timeout
Oct 11 2020 18:54:27Warning (5)MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1
Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

 

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cybrmstr
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

So here’s what the end result of that issue was. T3/T4 time-outs is a cause of an issue on the line but the additional issue was the problem with the modem resetting. Eventually a few days after posting these logs back in 2017 the modem wouldn’t even power up and died. The modem last be about 7 ish years. For about a year I rented the Comcast modem and then about a year ago i repurchased the same C6300 again for about $50 less then the 1st one. About 2 weeks ago I was having drops in internet. Same T3/T4 time-outs again and I had Comcast come out and check the line and it was a line issue that had to be resolved with an additional maint ticket that the tech had to put me in for. Hope that helps you.
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clmoore3rd
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

Thanks @cybrmstr, so your random router power reset issue was a hardware issue. My C6300 was about two years old when this first started happening.  If I buy another cable modem router I'll buy one with a two year warranty instead of one year.

 

The T3/T4 timeout were separate, unrelated issues?  So after you bought a new C6300 when those occurred the modem didn't power reset?

 

ISP tech just came out and confirmed signal levels were fine, even re-ran the drop into the house.

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cybrmstr
Tutor

Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

Let me be clear. T3/T4 timeouts are a line issue or a connection to the modem inside your house. My problem with my modem back in 2017 was a problem with the modem resetting. If the modem wasn’t doing that then the t3/t4 timeouts is a line problem. Whether it’s inside or outside not sure but normally this is a an outside concern. When I purchased the 2nd c6300 there were 0 problems for the past 2 years until a couple of weeks ago.
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clmoore3rd
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

Unexpected intermittent power reset issue confirmed as a hardware problem.  Just purchased a new modem router and no further intermittent internet troubles.  T3/T4 timeout issues were a byproduct of modem loss of power and reboot, coincidental with power reset events.  New modem has had no T3/T4 timeouts in the event log.

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cybrmstr
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Re: How to confirm C6300 hardware issues?

So there ya go:)
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