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SXK80 aggregation and AP Mode
Hi there, just bought a RBK852 but I misread the specs, no possible aggregation in AP Mode, just wanted to know if any of you know if it is possible with the SXK80, always time to send back to ch...
There is no direct relation between NAS LAG/aggregation and the SXx80 aggregation - except if you are going to link these direct.
Please let me know about your intentions on how to connect and wire your network. Not sure I understand it right - you want to put up a wired backhaul with dual Ethernet links aggregation (in router and/or AP mode), and there is a NAS where you want the best speed access of course.
Schumaku,
Thanks for your guidance.
My Synology NAS is directly connected to SXR80’s aggregated ports. My AV devices and pc’s needing access are wired back to the SCR80 via switches used with the now discarded Nighthawk. A couple are the old dumb switches and a couple are manageable via insight. Devices wanting access to the NAS occasionally on a single switch, but much more common is a single device on each of several switches want that fast access simultaneously. Portable roaming devices occasionally access the NAS.
My switch to SXR80 with SXS80 satellites versus my Nighthawk with WiFi extenders was for much better WiFi for portable devices particularly in areas where I cannot get wire, and of course better speeds and smooth handoffs with roaming devices. Aside from a few initial setup issues and untimely and protracted crashes during/after firmware upgrades, this has worked very well.
Release notes for firmware 3.2.3.100 states “ When link aggregation applies on WAN ports, removing the cable from one of the ports disconnects Internet access. Workaround: Keep two cables on aggregated WAN ports.” I believe the earlier firmware had the same “workaround” text. While the aggregation available on the SXR80 allows fast access to NAS for multiple devices, the failover protection that the Nighhawk had with its IEEE... aggregation is not available on Netgear’s premier business mesh system at the present time. Whether that can be improved with firmware is unknown.
I do understand your point that if I had my NAS connected to a level 3 switch that supported IEEE.... aggregation and all of my devices were wired to that switch directly rather than to the SCR80 those devices would have both speed and NAS failover protection in the event one cable went down. However, that would require such a switch and require me to run a lot more wire.
Thanks for your guidance.
My Synology NAS is directly connected to SXR80’s aggregated ports. My AV devices and pc’s needing access are wired back to the SCR80 via switches used with the now discarded Nighthawk. A couple are the old dumb switches and a couple are manageable via insight. Devices wanting access to the NAS occasionally on a single switch, but much more common is a single device on each of several switches want that fast access simultaneously. Portable roaming devices occasionally access the NAS.
My switch to SXR80 with SXS80 satellites versus my Nighthawk with WiFi extenders was for much better WiFi for portable devices particularly in areas where I cannot get wire, and of course better speeds and smooth handoffs with roaming devices. Aside from a few initial setup issues and untimely and protracted crashes during/after firmware upgrades, this has worked very well.
Release notes for firmware 3.2.3.100 states “ When link aggregation applies on WAN ports, removing the cable from one of the ports disconnects Internet access. Workaround: Keep two cables on aggregated WAN ports.” I believe the earlier firmware had the same “workaround” text. While the aggregation available on the SXR80 allows fast access to NAS for multiple devices, the failover protection that the Nighhawk had with its IEEE... aggregation is not available on Netgear’s premier business mesh system at the present time. Whether that can be improved with firmware is unknown.
I do understand your point that if I had my NAS connected to a level 3 switch that supported IEEE.... aggregation and all of my devices were wired to that switch directly rather than to the SCR80 those devices would have both speed and NAS failover protection in the event one cable went down. However, that would require such a switch and require me to run a lot more wire.
Yes, your environment reflects the typical higher end deployment for home or SOHO.
JohnD333 wrote:
Release notes for firmware 3.2.3.100 states “ When link aggregation applies on WAN ports, removing the cable from one of the ports disconnects Internet access. Workaround: Keep two cables on aggregated WAN ports.” I believe the earlier firmware had the same “workaround” text. While the aggregation available on the SXR80 allows fast access to NAS for multiple devices, the failover protection that the Nighhawk had with its IEEE... aggregation is not available on Netgear’s premier business mesh system at the present time. Whether that can be improved with firmware is unknown.Based on the very limited information, in my understanding this limitation applied to the router mode and the two aggregated links to the router WAN/Internet side. No word of LAN side.
Most static aggregation (static LAG) can and do provide fail-over capability, 802.3ad LACP isn't the only choice. In fact, the most simple static LAG config e.g. on a Linux host does does support fail-over only.
Talking risks - how likely is it that "just" a link fails in such a set-up? The >99.9% reason for aggregation is just providing more bandwidth.
JohnD333 wrote:
I do understand your point that if I had my NAS connected to a level 3 switch that supported IEEE.... aggregation and all of my devices were wired to that switch directly rather than to the SCR80 those devices would have both speed and NAS failover protection in the event one cable went down. However, that would require such a switch and require me to run a lot more wire.The availability of 802.3ad LACP is not something specific to a L3 switch (these would be primarily for supporting IPv4 and IPv6 routing applications among a few others) - this desinformation seems to come from other sources, I've never said this.
I'm having discussions with Netgear why the WAC540 and 564 port LAG (or port aggregation if you want) and similar the SXx80 aren't properly reflected in Insight. In my limited understanding of networking (happy that I can always learn) all these devices should become visible like the switches LAG config on Insight. As a side question, I've challenged them for offering 802.3ad LACP as an alternate aggregation mode.
Hi Guys,
well thank you both for jumping in, on my side I didn't received any notification and I was just looking if someone answered :p.
Anyway, I sent back the 852 and took the Pro bundle (SXR80 + SXS80), I am installing them right now.
Router have been updated to the latest firmware available (3.2.3.100), same goes for the satellite.
I just switched to AP Mode and... it is even worst :x, I can't even set a fixed IP since Advanced --> Setup --> Internet Setup is greyed out.
Same thing for WAN Setup and LAN Setup. I am just starting so it is too soon to give a clear answer on this, but it doesn't look too good so far.
I'll keep you posted.
Thanks again !
Ok, I found the answer at least for link aggregation. Advanced --> Advanced Setup --> VLAN / Bridge Settings
WAN 2.5 Gbps
LAN 1 Gbps maximum LAG is x2
That said, my satellite keep telling me it is disconnected in this sub menu but ok everywhere else, go figure.
Since I am in AP mode, I will symply plug it on a multigigabit switch and I will live with it I guess, Multigigabit will be standard soon enough if not already.
Digging on the vlan portion now.
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