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rkarjadi's avatar
rkarjadi
Aspirant
Oct 01, 2022

Orbi RBR50 Connection Issues - AX201 160 MHz

I've been having WiFi connectivity and internet issues when trying to connect to my Orbi RBR50 from my new PC that has an Intel(R) WiFi-6 AX201 160 MHz adapter in the motherboard. All other devices connected to the Orbi network have no issues with connectivity, internet or speed. When my PC connects to the Orbi WiFi, it either connects and has no internet (No Internet, Secured), connects but has dreadly slow speeds (15 upload and 10 download as opposed to the actual 250 up and down), or has no internet at all. I've tried updating my WiFi drivers and am currently trying to update the Orbi FW via the app, but it just sits on "Checking for new Firmware" for a very long time.

 

I saw another post here where a user says "Orbi doesn't support 160Mhz channel width on it's 1st 5Ghz radio. It is supported on it's 2nd 5Ghz radio, however that is ONLY for the wireless backhaul channel between the RBR and RBS. This is not usable by any connected client deivce nor configurable by a user.", but wasn't able to find any information on this and any attempt to directly contact NetGear support has failed. 

33 Replies

  • FURRYe38's avatar
    FURRYe38
    Guru - Experienced User

    I'd try some advanced adjustments on the adapters properties to see if you can tune that adapter in. Make sure it's backwards supporting of 5Ghz AC mode. Most AX adapters should be and include support for AX and 6Ghz depending on adapter.

     

    Make sure drivers are up to date on it as well. 

    Try a different adapter. 

     

    Ya, 160Mhz is only supported on the 5Ghz wireless backhaul between the RBR and RBS. Not user accessible. 

  • plemans's avatar
    plemans
    Guru - Experienced User

    1. what driver are you currently running on your wifi card? 

    2. is it connected to the 2.4ghz or the 5ghz? 

    3. what firmware is on the orbi and the satellites?

    4. What modem/gateway do you have the orbi connected to? 

    5. the backhaul isn't user accessible. thats correct. While it is wide with the 160hz wide channels, its not usable. Its dedicated just for the backhaul

     

    • rkarjadi's avatar
      rkarjadi
      Aspirant

      1. My Intel(R) WiFi-6 AX201 160MHz driver's version is 22.160.0.4 which is the latest one I got from Intel's website

      2. It is connected to the 5GHz. 

      3. The Orbi router's firmware is V1.3.0.26. I know it's really outdated, but the last time I attempted to update the firmware I had all sorts of issues. I wasn't able to find out the satellite's firmware version.

      4. The modem it's connected to is an ASUS Wireless Router TM-AC1900

       

      The current set up is [WiFi #2 - ASUS Wireless Router TM-AC1900] -> [WiFi #1 - Orbi Router in AP Mode] -> [2 Orbi Satellites]

       

      I've been attempting to update the router's firmware via the Orbi app on my phone, but it seems to be just hanging on "Checking for New Firmware - Wait about 5 minutes while your orbi checks for new firmware." It seems to sit on this, but if I try to back out of the app it says "Are you sure you want to exit from the app?" so the app isn't frozen.

  • CrimpOn's avatar
    CrimpOn
    Guru - Experienced User

    rkarjadi wrote:

    I saw another post here where a user says "Orbi doesn't support 160Mhz channel width on it's 1st 5Ghz radio. It is supported on it's 2nd 5Ghz radio,


    This is not correct.  The original Orbi (RBR50) supports 80MHz channels for both user facing and backhaul in the 5G space.  It does not support 160MHz channels.  This Orbi also does not support 802.11ax.

     

    When the adapter attempts to connect to the WiFi system, the adapter and WiFi access point are supposed to negotiate which capabilities they both support and the adapter should switch off ax and use a maximum channel width of 80MHz for 5G.

     

    The 'app' is a major disappointment as far as firmware updates is concerned.  If you discover that the firmware is definitely not the current release, V2.7.4.24, then downloading firmware from the Netgear support site and manually loading it on the satellite and router is the only process that is guaranteed.

    https://kb.netgear.com/31573/How-do-I-manually-upgrade-firmware-on-my-Orbi-router-using-orbilogin-com 

    • plemans's avatar
      plemans
      Guru - Experienced User

      CrimpOn My bad. Forgot it was a 4x4 antenna setup for backhaul for the 1733mbps. Not 160hz. Whoops. 

  • I know it's 2024, but I came across this thread with the same problem but have resolved it.

     

    I purchased a new motherboard with AX201 160 integrated with external antenna.

    I was loading up some games and noticed I couldn't download faster than 50 Mbps, despite my ISP providing me a 100 Mbps download speed.

     

    I checked my speed from the Orbi router itself, and it was still hitting 100 Mbps, so I knew it must be the PC.

     

    Here's what I did:

    (1) Downloaded the As201 driver directly from Intel

    (2) Uninstalled the driver via device manager

    (3) Restarted PC and then reinstalled new driver

    (4) Updated firmware of ORBI to latest (2.7.4.24) manually

     

    I'm now hitting 100 Mbps.

     

     

    • FURRYe38's avatar
      FURRYe38
      Guru - Experienced User

      Be aware that this is the most current version of FW:

      https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-Wi-Fi-5-AC-and-Orbi-with/New-RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-7-5-4/td-p/2296598/jump-to/first-unread-message


      pietropietrodi wrote:

      I know it's 2024, but I came across this thread with the same problem but have resolved it.

       

      I purchased a new motherboard with AX201 160 integrated with external antenna.

      I was loading up some games and noticed I couldn't download faster than 50 Mbps, despite my ISP providing me a 100 Mbps download speed.

       

      I checked my speed from the Orbi router itself, and it was still hitting 100 Mbps, so I knew it must be the PC.

       

      Here's what I did:

      (1) Downloaded the As201 driver directly from Intel

      (2) Uninstalled the driver via device manager

      (3) Restarted PC and then reinstalled new driver

      (4) Updated firmware of ORBI to latest (2.7.4.24) manually

       

      I'm now hitting 100 Mbps.