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CrimpOn
Mar 27, 2025Guru - Experienced User
VLAN Puzzle
I would appreciate assistance diagnosing a VLAN problem. Now that many homes have Ethernet cables installed from most rooms to a central patch panel, some users find that the patch panel is not a gre...
CrimpOn
Apr 16, 2025Guru - Experienced User
The Luddite is still confused.
When a VLAN port on a switch is "tagged", that means that every packet going out that port will contain the 802.1Q Header Type/Size field immediately after the Source MAC address. When the packet goes into another managed switch, the VLAN tag remains part of the packet. When the packet exits that second switch:
- If that port is "tagged", then the VLAN tag remains in the packet.
- If that port is "untagged", then the VLAN tag is removed.
- When packets go through unmanaged switches, nothing is done to the payload. If there is a tag in the packet, it remains in the packet. If the tag has no packet, it just goes through the unmanaged switch "as is".
So, on switch 1 everything from the LAN port on the router is configured to be part of VLAN 4092. If the switch sends it out any of the untagged Ports, it has no VLAN tag. When it goes to switch 2, the 4092 tag goes with it. In switch 2, if the packet goes out any untagged port (like to a printer, computer, etc.) the tag is removed.
If the packet goes out the port leading to the satellite, we want to keep VLAN tag 4092 in the packet.
This is where I am confused. When observing the connection between Orbi router and satellite, I do not pick up any packets that contain VLAN tags. (no switches, just a simple Etherent cable.) Are they optional? i.e. the satellite is so smart it can recognize router packets with or without a VLAN tag?
schumaku
Apr 16, 2025Guru - Experienced User
CrimpOn wrote:
Are they optional? i.e. the satellite is so smart it can recognize router packets with or without a VLAN tag?
How else should a even a simple Wireless Access Point (with it's own local management by default on the untagged network) associate different SSID with different, independant logical networks? Everything is on the same physical Ethernet link, the SSIDs on air making different logical networks - on the same physical network commonly known as "air"?
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