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JustKJ
Sep 23, 2016Aspirant
Time Machine slow after 6.5.2 update
It may be a coincidence, but I just updated my ReadyNAS to firmware 6.5.2. I back up three Macs to the TimeMachine i have on the unit. The time machines have worked fine since when I purchased it,...
JustKJ
Oct 24, 2016Aspirant
Yes, the back ups are desprately slow still.
Firmware is now 6.6.0 now.
As measre of how bad it is, typically for a day you can see the hourly backups when in TimeMachine. For today the backups are time stamped: 3:01 AM, 7:03 AM, 10:42 AM, 2:38 PM. I did not get on the machine until 9AM this moring. Yesterday I did not use it, so there should have been little to backup, but the time stamps averages every 3 hours.
I just emailed the logs to the address with a link this topic.
mdgm-ntgr
Oct 25, 2016NETGEAR Employee Retired
Perhaps try turning off some services and see if that has any impact. I'd start by stopping the anti-virus service
- JustKJOct 25, 2016Aspirant
I disabled the Antivirus service on the Readynas, and that had not decernable effect. Is there a way to see what is being backed up or a way to watch the log in real time. I can see when the backup grinds to a halt and the extimate times changes from 1 to 2 to 3 hours and then eventuall an MB or two complete and the estimate dropes back down. This is truely odd.
Currently the services that are running are SMB, AFP, ReadyDLNA, Rsync, HTTP, HTTPS. Keeping in mind my current uses for the NAS:
- I am running mac software like itunes (Library is on a share) and MS Office for Mac (file storage on NAS)
- Using Parallels Virtual Machine to run Windows 10 and office 2016, storing files on the NAS
- Attaching a USB3 portable hard drive to back up the NAS files.
- I have tried connectign to the NAS remotely using ReadNas Remote, but not had much luck with it due to firewalls at clients. So this not a need.
I think I turned on Rsync when I got the NAS to transfer the files from the old NAS to this one, can I turn that off now?
- JustKJOct 26, 2016Aspirant
StephenB,
I am using the back up jobs created on the NAS, triggered with the front button after connecting the drive. I do not see inthe settings and mention of what protocol the back job uses.
- mdgm-ntgrOct 26, 2016NETGEAR Employee Retired
So do the slow downs for TM backups coincide with writes to the NAS from other applications?
- StephenBOct 26, 2016Guru - Experienced User
You'd likely remember if you'd set up the USB backup job to use rsync.
To see the method, select the backup job, then click the settings wheel. Look at the Source and Destination, and you should see the method in the "name" field. If you don't see "remote:Rsync Server" on of those pages then you aren't using rsync.
For instance:
- JustKJOct 26, 2016Aspirant
StephenB:
Based on the picture, then I would say the backups are not using that protocol. But I cannot be sure which of the others it is using:
- StephenBOct 26, 2016Guru - Experienced User
If both the source and destination are local, the system is using linux copy [cp] commands.
You could have treated the install share as remote (using 127.0.0.1 as the remote IP address), and then chosen rsync as the protocol. There are some advantages to that (but it is off-topic). The main thing is that you aren't using rsync, so you can disable it if you like.
- JustKJOct 26, 2016Aspirant
I have not turned of the Rsync protocol yet, as I was in the middle of timing a back up. It seems things are worse now than when I last wrote. I manually launched backup, all the network and machines are the same. The only difference is that I did not run a virtual machine inbetween the previous and this back up, I did not connect to the shares at all. I rebooted the iMac and launched the back up. 2.67GB and it took 7:47 minutes!
This is a bit geeky, but here is a table of times that I managed to catch. The final entry was within minutes of it ocurring.
I am warming up a MacBook Pro laptop that i will conenct to the network the same way and will try a TM backup for it as well and see if there is any major differences.
- JustKJOct 27, 2016Aspirant
Ok, A test with a second computer was better, but still not the norm. The was using a MacBook Pro that is 4 years older (slower processor) connected by Ethernet cable to the same switch/router/NAS that the iMac is connected to. No other programs running. No other machined connected to the Shares on the NAS. The backup was 2.07 GB and took 2 Hours and 28 mintues plus an additional 1hr and 16 min for a verification step.
In my mind, this shows it is not a device (iMac or MacBook) problem, but I think related to the NAS update that noted at the start of this thread.
Here is the table from the Backbook:
- FramerVOct 28, 2016NETGEAR Employee Retired
Good day,
Based on the description of the issue that you have provided, I may need to check this with others who can probably assist you and get back to you as soon as possible.
May I also ask if the NAS overall is showing any type of slow response other than the Time Machine back-up.
Thanks for your cooperation!
Regards,
- JustKJOct 28, 2016Aspirant
FramerV:
I copied (drag and drop) a 4.01 GB Aperture Library from my iMac to a share on the drive (AFP). Mac OS esitmated that it would take 4 mintes just after starting. Its progress seemed to fast until about 2GB mark it was 2:minutes and it slowed at that point. it hit 3GB at 4:40. It finished all 4 GB at 5:48. MUCH faster than the documented Timemachine job close to what I expected.
- JustKJOct 28, 2016Aspirant
I thought I had this in my original post. But cannot see it. My Rig:
iMac Late 2012 OS: El Capitan 10.11.6 Netgear Router WNDR4300 Netgear ReadyNAS 314 OS 6.6.0 Netgear 8 Port Switch GS108 Netgear Cable Modem CM500 I have the WiFi on the iMac turned off for all the testing. The longest cable run is 20 feet, the rest are 8 or less. All using Cat 6 cable.
- JustKJDec 14, 2016Aspirant
FramerV,
Its been awhile since I have see you post, did you check with the other people and did you find any additional information?
As an update to my situation, i have updated to Sierra and that made no change. Today I updated Sierra to 10.12.2 and tried initiatign a time machine back up and after 2 hours it is still preparing the backup.
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