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JeronimoB
Jan 03, 2023Tutor
GS105 Unmanaged assigning 192.254.106.x
Hi, I have a simple setup at home Modem/router (DHCP) --> straight-cable --> GS105 --> patch cable --> AppleTV --> PS4 When I co...
- Jan 03, 2023
Cable testers are a gray area. I've had cables test out perfectly fine using one but not work when tested between devices. Unless you have a pretty high end tester, they just pass a current down the line. If the receiver picks it up, its good. But sometimes sketchy connections are good enough for current but not data transfer. So try different cables.
Try bringing the apple tv and the switch right next to the router and use 2x 6ft cables to connect them. That ensures its nothing in the walls, the patch panel, or those cables causing issues.
JeronimoB
Jan 03, 2023Tutor
Thanks plemans. I do understand that.
I made a small mistake, the IP my AppleTV reports = 169.254.106.x (not 192.254.106.x).
This is a special range as explained here https://www.globalknowledge.com/us-en/resources/resource-library/articles/where-did-that-169-254-x-x-ip-address-come-from/#gref
Spoiler
As a final thought, let’s return to the question originally posed, “Where Did That IP Address 169.254.0.1 Come From?” Many client operating systems use something called Automatic Private IP Addressing. This process assigns an IP address even in the absence of a DHCP server. If a DISCOVER message is not answered, the client picks a random 16-bit number and prepends it with 169.254.x.x. It performs a gratuitous ARP and assigns that address to itself.
The idea of Automatic Private IP Addressing is that two travelers could link their devices quickly and easily. For instance, two train commuters could play a game on the way to the city. They configure DHCP on their laptops and use Automatic Private IP Addressing on the train and then get a different IP in the office.
If you see a 169.254.x.x address, it means that the DHCP server is not reachable. The PC will not work because there is not a router to or from that PC. Troubleshoot this by finding out why the PC cannot see the DHCP server.
So my AppleTV does not 'see' my router with the GS105 sitting in between.
I tested again, if I connect the AppleTV directly it will be assigned a 192.168.1.xxx address.
So my question here: the GS105 should not prevent any connected device from reaching the DHCP in my router, right?
plemans
Jan 03, 2023Guru - Experienced User
It shouldn't. I've used plenty of unmanaged switches and for the most part "they just work". Unless its bad or a cable is bad, if you have it connected properly, it just works. It doesn't block anything.
Again, I'd check your cables and the connection to the router/apple tv.
- JeronimoBJan 03, 2023Tutor
plemans I checked the patch cables with my cable tester and tested the patch cable directly on my router with my laptop connected. Weird thing.
The GS105 does not care about cross-link or straight-through (that was one concern I had). Maybe truly a faulty GS105 somehow...- plemansJan 03, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Cable testers are a gray area. I've had cables test out perfectly fine using one but not work when tested between devices. Unless you have a pretty high end tester, they just pass a current down the line. If the receiver picks it up, its good. But sometimes sketchy connections are good enough for current but not data transfer. So try different cables.
Try bringing the apple tv and the switch right next to the router and use 2x 6ft cables to connect them. That ensures its nothing in the walls, the patch panel, or those cables causing issues.
- JeronimoBJan 03, 2023Tutor
So.... although the straight-through cable from router to switch (approx 20m length) was working technically fine with the AppleTV I decided to connect two new RJ45 connectors. It appeared the wiring was not correct (although all pins were straight-through connected, it was not White/Orange - Orange - White Green - Blue - White Blue - Green - White Brown - Brown). I think due to length of cable, this might have caused the issue. Indeed; do not trust the cable tester blindly 😉
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