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jjvoliver
Jul 27, 2018Apprentice
Netgear Orbi RBK53 Wired 2.1.4.16, too many issues!
So, I just set up this system on Monday, July 23rd, 2018.
Using it to replace a Google WiFi mesh system comprised of 3 Asus On-Hubs.
The reason I wanted to change was that I needed more r...
- Jul 27, 2018
What is the mfr and model# of the ISP modem?
Any network switches in the mix? If so, Mfr and model# of the switches.
What is the distances between the base router and satllite and in between the satellite? 30 feet should be a good starting point.
What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Heres how I got my friends 50 series up and running:
Others to review:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Rbr50-satellite-to-satellite/m-p/1613750/highlight/true#M38100
FURRYe38
Jul 28, 2018Guru - Experienced User
Daisy Chaing is for wireless connected satellites, two or more. I presume if your using wireld backhaul, this option needs to be disabled. I presume fast roaming may be a push however this option depends on how wireless clients handle roaming with the Orbi. MIMO is for devices that support MIMO. So if you don't have any or maybe just one, I'd disable MIMO.
How long did you want after you connected the LAN cable to the satellite? You need 5 minutes to wait for the top led to turn on BLUE. Then the network should settle down.
Aother way I would connect satellites via wired backhaul is to disconnect ALL other wired and network devices from the ORbi. Then connect the lan cable to the satellites, 1 at a time, waiting up to 5 minutes for the top led to turn on BLUE. Once you have all the satellites connected and tested. Then re-connect all the rest of the devices.
I believe sometimes the Orbi router may have problems with DHCP and IP address conflicts during this process when a wired satelllite is connected. Saw behavior on my satellite where for some reason, it was in conflict with my cell phone microcell. I had to turn OFF the microcell, get the satellite reconnected, gave it a IP reservattion on the router, then turn on my microcell then the system was ok.
jjvoliver wrote:
Well,
I accept your solution because, well, it IS the solution to have the mesh system working now.
However, does anyone know anything about why the options (daisy chain, MU-MIMO, beamforming, etc) seem to break this?
Also, is there anything from Netgear about an estimated time of resolution for the wired backhaul?
I've been searching all over and cannot find anything on these subjects, other than owners complaining about them.
Thank you.
Further
Jul 30, 2018Aspirant
When the wired backhaul is plugged into a satellite with an active wireless backhaul, a switching loop is created. Packets will be transmitted around the loop endlessly consuming all of the network bandwidth. I don’t know how netgear has tried to implement the transition from wireless to wired, but it isn’t easy and there clearly are issues.
In datacenters switching loops loops are broken using something called a spanning tree protocol. STP is complicated and often results in a suboptimal network structure, so I doubt that netgear is using it.
In any case, sticking with a wireless backhaul is a safe choice since it is netgear’s primary test scenario.
- FURRYe38Jul 30, 2018Guru - Experienced User
Wired back haul works as well:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-10-kills-Internet-access-if-you-use-Ethernet-back/m-p/1603922/highlight/true#M35521
https://kb.netgear.com/000051205/What-is-Ethernet-backhaul-and-how-do-I-set-it-up-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System
Greg's Setup Working: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1592753/highlight/true#M34020
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-wired-backhaul-performance/m-p/1548397/highlight/false#M27862
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/I-found-a-Connection-issue-Resolution-for-wired-backhaul/m-p/1559747#M29420
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-10-kills-Internet-access-if-you-use-Ethernet-back/m-p/1560805/highlight/false#M29587
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585890/highlight/true#M33049
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585994/highlight/true#M33074Disable IGMP on Managed Switches if present:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1553749/highlight/true#M30673
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Using-Router-Configured-as-Access-Point-Cannot-see-Satellites-in/m-p/1612052/highlight/true#M37974
Further wrote:
When the wired backhaul is plugged into a satellite with an active wireless backhaul, a switching loop is created. Packets will be transmitted around the loop endlessly consuming all of the network bandwidth. I don’t know how netgear has tried to implement the transition from wireless to wired, but it isn’t easy and there clearly are issues.
In datacenters switching loops loops are broken using something called a spanning tree protocol. STP is complicated and often results in a suboptimal network structure, so I doubt that netgear is using it.
In any case, sticking with a wireless backhaul is a safe choice since it is netgear’s primary test scenario.