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Murrayfield
Oct 03, 2023Tutor
Netgear GS105PE firmware upgrades
I have a number of Netgear GS105PE switches in my network which were all running FW V1.6.0.6. They were all happily behaving themselves (I know if it works don't fix it) but I thought hey lets upgra...
- Oct 05, 2023
Hi Kurt
Many thanks for the extremely detailed explanation, yes you are correct, in both cases I am powering the GS105 switches from GS108v3.
I did experiment with daisy chaining 2 GS105 PE (again upgraded to V1.6.0.17 from a single port (4) of a 24 port NETGEAR JGS524PE-100EUS but again this did not work. When I downgraded the GS105PE it supported the second GS105 in the daisy chain, so as you say I must be operating right on the limits, good to know.
Given that prior to upgrade everything worked, albeit as you say in a potential fault scenario, I propose to revert all my switches back to V1.6.0.6 and document the ratiionale for not upgrading to V1.6.0.17. That way if it ever goes flaky, I or whoever comes after me will have a guide as to the reasoning.
Given the way these outlying bits of my network are architected it is extremely difficult to get 240V to either the switch or the camera without incurring a great deal of expense but I will note for the future.
Many thanks again for your time and trouble
Regards
Ian
schumaku
Oct 04, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Hello Ian,
In either use case, the GS105PE is powered from a GS108PEv3?
Fear you are trying to operate these devices ways out of specs 8-/
Please carefully review the GS105PE: PoE troubleshooting again.
Lets break briefly down the available power situation. The GS108PEv3 has four PoE 802.3af ports, so the power available for the GS105PE, when powered by IEEE 802.3af, :the GS105PE can power up only one Class 1/2 PoE device. Anything more that appears to work with -two- devices was possible by error only. Nothing wrong with the GS105PE and the current V1.6.0.17 firmware. Powering one Axis M1125 Class 2 is possible. Anything beyond is out of specs.
When powered by IEEE 802.3af:
The GS105PE can power up only one Class 1/2 PoE device.
For the WN370, I can't provide any experience. Indeed, can't find the PoE Class is these devices request. Based on the .Typical Power Consumption specs, with typical 5.1 W, it might be a Class 2 device. Have none of these at hand to connect to s Smart or Managed PoE switch to see what Class this device does request in a real-world environment.
Assuming the WN370 is a Class 2 PoE device (max 7.6W), and the second device you like to power is the Axis M1125, also a Class 2 device (max 7.6W):
Assuming the WN370 is a Class 2 PoE device (max 7.6W), and the second device you like to power is the Axis M1125, also a Class 2 device (max 7.6W):
Powering these two might be possible if you use a 802.11at PSE to power the GS105PE
When powered by IEEE 802.3at:
The GS105PE can power up only one Class 0/3 PoE device or two class 1/2 devices.
Related to the WAX214, I doubt this is a PD Class 1 device (some docs refer Type 1 ... this is not the same pair of shoes). Sure, a WAX214 can be operated on a 802.11af PD, very likely it requires all power capacity for it's own, so Class 3 (or Class 0) with 16.4W power allocated. No way to operate such a WAX214 in parallel with another PoE device on a GS105PE. That other device would get a PD fault signaled and unlikely to be powered reliably.,
Sorry for bringing your hopes back to the hard standardization world in the PoE arena. PoE, the unknown creature 8-/
Regards,
-Kurt
Murrayfield
Oct 05, 2023Tutor
Hi Kurt
Many thanks for the extremely detailed explanation, yes you are correct, in both cases I am powering the GS105 switches from GS108v3.
I did experiment with daisy chaining 2 GS105 PE (again upgraded to V1.6.0.17 from a single port (4) of a 24 port NETGEAR JGS524PE-100EUS but again this did not work. When I downgraded the GS105PE it supported the second GS105 in the daisy chain, so as you say I must be operating right on the limits, good to know.
Given that prior to upgrade everything worked, albeit as you say in a potential fault scenario, I propose to revert all my switches back to V1.6.0.6 and document the ratiionale for not upgrading to V1.6.0.17. That way if it ever goes flaky, I or whoever comes after me will have a guide as to the reasoning.
Given the way these outlying bits of my network are architected it is extremely difficult to get 240V to either the switch or the camera without incurring a great deal of expense but I will note for the future.
Many thanks again for your time and trouble
Regards
Ian
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