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XS712t (v1) support of IEEE 1905.1
I'm currently looking at the latest generation mesh wifi systems, but would prefer a wired backhaul.
On sites for the TP-LINK BE85, for instance, people are reporting issues due to network looping, and with switches that don't support IEEE 1905.1. Apparently, the devices transmit discovery and communication packages to establish their backhaul, and if either fails to get through the backhaul cannot be initiated.
I've looked every I could, and I can't find a single reference to 1905.1 for the xs712t. Does anyone out there know if there is either implicit or explicit support for this?
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Afzalb wrote:
On sites for the TP-LINK BE85, for instance, people are reporting issues due to network looping, and with switches that don't support IEEE 1905.1. Apparently, the devices transmit discovery and communication packages to establish their backhaul, and if either fails to get through the backhaul cannot be initiated.
I've looked every I could, and I can't find a single reference to 1905.1 for the xs712t. Does anyone out there know if there is either implicit or explicit support for this?
Neither.
Simply incomptible to the big majority of business class netowrk devices, switches, ... an extremely bad idea this IEEE addtition is.
It's incompatible to virtully any industry standard networking products in the field, old or new, except these built for usage on 1905.1 networks.
Avoid buying these at any cost, unless you build new network on a green field.
Unfortuntley, even big consumer device vendors (Google Nest, AVM, ...) have jumped on this s**t.
What for exactly you need these consumer Mesh systems (throw in and run)? Most likely thre is no need ....
Especially if you intend to operate a wired backhaul anyway?
Asking different: What do you expect from a Mesh system, or watching to much marketing?
Regards,
-Kurt.
That's a good question. First, I'm neither a business nor a business user. In 2020 when I bought my home it was newly built and had been cabled in Cat6a with a symmetric 10GB internet access.
I couldn't find a home switch that could handle the 10GB so I bought the XS712t.
To be honest, I don't understand the advantage of wireless mesh. If you have to place them close enough so that their backhaul signal is strong enough for good speeds, then you are only going to barely extend the coverage of the base unit.
Given my star configuration through the XS712t, the only possible advantage of a mesh system is they may have nicer roaming characteristics, as devices sold as mesh seem to be the only ones in a consumer space that have 801.11k/v/r support. I may be overthinking things here, as mesh is mainly marketing, and in the end it's the client that decides when to switch.
All right, we've just moved my home into an 120 m2 appartment, originally built in 2020, too, very sparesly pre-wired, so have to add additional cables these days to come.
In it's core, we're operating a MS510TXUP (fully MultiGig up to 10G, eight 802.3af/at/bt PoE++ with up to 60 Watt each, total PoE Budget is 295 W), plus currently three WBE71x (to be updated to a total of four WBE75x, CFO permitting).
Said that: There is no need for any kind of wireless Mesh, since all APs are wired anyway. Fully semless roaming is granted for all wireless clients of course.
The complete location is Netgear Insight managed, covering multiple VLANs along with the related SSIDs of course.
And yes, in my "other" life, as a spare time and hobby work, I've put up a Netger AV reference project for a full IP based Ice Hockey Venue environment for live TV production, with currenlty 16 NDI cameras (manual, PTZ operated, four fixed - blue line cmers will follow, so we will have 20 inputs), vMix PC, Dante audio in and out, Instant Replay (lacks of some co-workers for production assistance as of writing), corse switch is a M4350, edge switches are some smller M4350, plus three M4250), network admin and operations is pure Netgear Engage based, an 2.0 update will follow so the PR460X will be fully integrated soon.
Doès this give you some ideas for your plans and intentions?
Regards,
-Kurt.
Thank you everyone for your very useful comments and tips.
In the end, I'm going to go with WiFi 6/7 APs, using 2.5Gbps PoE. As the XS712t can't do 2.5, nor has it got PoE, I will buy a cheap unmanaged switch that can do that, and has an SFP+ 10GBase-T module to connect to the XS712t.
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