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diehardbattery1's avatar
Jan 11, 2023
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WAX630E Best connection method for 2 AP's at same location?

I have 2 WAX630E AP's in my home.  While it might seem overkill, I have a single story 3800sqft home, and figured one at the front of the house and one at the rear would provide the best coverage/speed.  What I am wondering is, using Insight, should the AP's be meshed or of not, how would not being meshed work assuming the same SSID for both?


  • schumaku wrote:

    Undoubted, this is where I would bring a MS108EUP uplink port so you have a consistent 2.5GbE coverage.

     

    It's not a question of 6E - the same would apply if operating 5 GHz AX on a 4x4 or for the sake on 2x2 clients. The performance would not massively differ if not having the 4x4 in 5.0GHz H, 4x4 in 5.0GHz L, 4x4 in 2.4GHz radios on board (5.0GHz H: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz L: 2400Mbps, 2.4GHz: 1200Mbps) instead of the 2x2 in 6.0GHz, 4x4 in 5.0GHz, 2x2 in 2.4GHz radios (6.0GHz: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz: 4800Mbps, 2.4GHz: 600Mbps). Needless to say, the dedicated 6 GHz channels provide an advantage due to the much less occupied band.

     

    The powerful AP could take  big advantage on the 2.5GbE vs. the limited single Gigabit uplink.

     


    I have arranged it so the MS108 is directly connected to the appliance so the 2.5G is fully realized, and the Gigabit switch uplinks to that.  I did not notice any difference until I realized I never went and enabled 6G on the AP.  Once I did that, all was good.

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    • Okay, I am a bit confused about the part where you disconnect the AP's to enter discovery mode.  I was somehow able to setup a mesh without doing this step, one as root the other as extender.  Also, is there no option for wired backhaul?

       

      Both AP's go to a MS108EUP switch, that uplinks to another 24 port switch (gigabit) that provides the networking/internet

      • plemans's avatar
        plemans
        Guru - Experienced User

        sorry, I don't have any of the insight managed AP's to play with. I got a few of the basics on using them/standard wifi stuff but without actual business grade ap's, not much experience. 

         

         schumaku is pretty rock solid with the business grade equipment. 

  • schumaku's avatar
    schumaku
    Guru - Experienced User

    As you have one capable network connecting both WAX630E using two 2.5G links to the MS108EUP there is no reason to configure a mesh which does establish another link (over wireless) between the wireless root and the extender.

     

    Amazing the networking marketing people caused a lot of confusion praying a mesh to appear as a holy grail. Said that, there is no reason to create an Insight mesh here.

     

    The question is what you want to achieve with this two AP on the 2.5G links each and the rest of the infrastructure which remains on Gigabit.

    • plemans's avatar
      plemans
      Guru - Experienced User

      Thanks for chiming in schumaku ! 

      Much appreciated. I'm half decent with the consumer equipment but the business stuff, pretty much fumbling in the dark. 


    • schumaku wrote:

      The question is what you want to achieve with this two AP on the 2.5G links each and the rest of the infrastructure which remains on Gigabit.


      I have 6E devices.  I upgraded from the Orbi 6E mesh system (not Pro), so I was trying to match what I had or do better.  The question I could not find a solid answer on was if 2.5G was needed to achieve 6E performance.  With the Orbi, I had no 2.5G links and was able to get full speed on my 6E devices, whereas now I am only getting about half of that with the mesh setup.  I was getting a bit less than half before I created the Insight mesh.  I also have a firewall appliance with 2.5G ports (WAN, eth0, opt1, opt2).  Despite the seemingly obvious mistake I might have made by connecting the MS108E to a 1G switch, should I have instead connected to the appliance? 

      • schumaku's avatar
        schumaku
        Guru - Experienced User

        Undoubted, this is where I would bring a MS108EUP uplink port so you have a consistent 2.5GbE coverage.

         

        It's not a question of 6E - the same would apply if operating 5 GHz AX on a 4x4 or for the sake on 2x2 clients. The performance would not massively differ if not having the 4x4 in 5.0GHz H, 4x4 in 5.0GHz L, 4x4 in 2.4GHz radios on board (5.0GHz H: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz L: 2400Mbps, 2.4GHz: 1200Mbps) instead of the 2x2 in 6.0GHz, 4x4 in 5.0GHz, 2x2 in 2.4GHz radios (6.0GHz: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz: 4800Mbps, 2.4GHz: 600Mbps). Needless to say, the dedicated 6 GHz channels provide an advantage due to the much less occupied band.

         

        The powerful AP could take  big advantage on the 2.5GbE vs. the limited single Gigabit uplink.

         

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