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captclam1
Aspirant
Dec 04, 2020

SXR80 VLANs can't talk to each other- Inter-Vlan Routing?

I have my wired network at VLAN 1 192.168.0.0/24 and Wireless 2 setup for 192.168.20.0/24. No network or client isolation is enabled. Devices cannot see one another. I tried a static route, but it didn't work. Please advise.

 

P.S. This goofy site doesn't even list the SXR80. Very frustrating. Nothing in the manual about this either. 

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  • schumaku's avatar
    schumaku
    Guru - Experienced User

    captclam1 wrote:

    I have my wired network at VLAN 1 192.168.0.0/24 and Wireless 2 setup for 192.168.20.0/24. No network or client isolation is enabled. Devices cannot see one another. 


    Perfectly correct 8-) - Wireless 1 does connect to a VLAN, e.g. VLAN 1, Wirless 2 does connect to another VLAN. Both VLANs make up dedicated, isolated networks.

     

    Netgear does define each network in LAN Profiles, when I have it right there are five [V]LAN profiles preconfigured. Here you can control Client Isolation (that's between the wireless clients but on the very same SSID only), and the Network Isolation. 

     

    FMI: Orbi Pro WiFi 6 Router SXR80 and Orbi Pro WiFi 6 Satellite SXR80 User Manual p.122 ff "Manage the VLANs "

     

    This is different from consumer Orbi and the AC Orbi Pro or many consumer routers allowing multiple SSIDs to connect to the same network and doing more or less nasty L2 tricks/filters what is controlled by these network or client isolation controls. 

     


    captclam1 wrote:

     P.S. This goofy site doesn't even list the SXR80. Very frustrating. Nothing in the manual about this either. 


    Yes, Netgear has some backlog adding new device models and kits here on this SaaS platform. ChristineT nice pleeeeeeease 8-)

    • captclam1's avatar
      captclam1
      Aspirant

      Not sure which manual you are referring to, but page 122 on the manual for my gear (Ax6000) it is troubleshooting.

       

      It sounds like what you are saying it that you cannot allow the employee SSID talk to anything on the wired network (other than the internet) unless you specify that port on the device. So, it is relatively worthless if I have more that 253 devices on my network. The whole reason I got this was to enable more than a single class C worth of devices to talk to each other. 

       

      The system also does not support wired backhaul. I tried, and the device I plugged into the wired network (sat 2), refused to accept any wireless connections. Broadcasted the SSIDs but refused to do squat.  

       

      I really can't imagine a use case for these devices with no ability to communicate between SSIDs. Imagine, you put all your Google assistants and X10 gear on the IOT SSID... then nothing can stream or screen cast. I have to imagine I have something wrong here, because it would be nuts...  maybe if you were a landlord providing free wireless to three companies, but I can't imagine anything else. 

      • schumaku's avatar
        schumaku
        Guru - Experienced User

        Typo, sorry - p.112. CTRL-F for the mentioned title would have helped.

         

        But before please read my reply on the X10 thread.

         

        Of course it does support a wired backhaul - it's part of the spec. Just like it does support one LAG by device. Just like the ability to enable routing (unluckly naming by Netgear "Network Isolation" but you specifically asked for this, correct?) between the subnetworks, but no granular control - but that's all you want. And be ware it's just IP routing ...

         

        But then considering that everything is on VLANs it can't be thrown onto each and any smaller or bigger wired network - the different subnets reside in different networks and different IP subnetworks. 

         

        If all you expect is a flat and more or less unstructured network as you have with the two X10 (nice machines - but unfortunately not very well maintained by Netgear...) allowing more then a single class C amount of hosts - yes, the Orbi Pro WiFi 6 is the wrong device. And count in any other Netgear consumer routers - which are all limited to a /24 subnet why ever. 

         

        Don't blame the messenger ... I can't change the world. 

  • Bump, was curious to know if you got inter-vlan routing accomplished?  It doesn't explicitly state it, but it seems like the Orbi Pro 6 is able to act like a Layer 3 switch, so it seems like it should be possible.

    • schumaku's avatar
      schumaku
      Guru - Experienced User

      AquaLabAquaria wrote:

      ...curious to know if you got inter-vlan routing accomplished?  It doesn't explicitly state it, but it seems like the Orbi Pro 6 is able to act like a Layer 3 switch, so it seems like it should be possible.


      In my understanding, the controls are limited to the "network isolation", so it's less than wht is vailable on a simple L3 smart switch. The KB How do I create, configure, and assign VLANs on my Orbi Pro WiFi 6?  says. "When network isolation is enabled, clients in this VLAN cannot communicate with clients in other VLANs."

       

      What is in the works is an Multicast routing feature while talking.

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