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eblues
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Apr 30, 2022
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Orbi RBK653 Mesh

I'm looking get in on the cheaper side of WiFi 6 and Tri-band with two satellites. The router is on one end of the house, so I'll need to daisy chain the two extenders to reach the opposite end, about 60 feet away. I know this isn't ideal, but from what I've read should work.

 

The RBK653 is about the least expensive WiFi 6/Tri-Band system I can find at $400. But I'm confused, the Router is Tri-Band, but the Satellites in this system are Dual Band. Won't the dual band satellites defeat the purpose of having a Tri-Band Router?

 

The next move up to the RBK753 is $550... is it worth the extra pop?.

 

Thanks.

  • If you're daisy chaining, I'd highly recommend the triband satellites. The dual bands take a significand speed hit when daisy chained. 

    The only time I recommend the dual bands is if you're planning on hardwiring in the satellites. Then it performs fine. 

     

    If you don't mind renewed, there's been some renewed orbi's on amazon

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  • plemans's avatar
    plemans
    Guru - Experienced User

    If you're daisy chaining, I'd highly recommend the triband satellites. The dual bands take a significand speed hit when daisy chained. 

    The only time I recommend the dual bands is if you're planning on hardwiring in the satellites. Then it performs fine. 

     

    If you don't mind renewed, there's been some renewed orbi's on amazon

    • eblues's avatar
      eblues
      Guide
      Thanks for taking the time to reply to this hit and run. You confirm my suspicions. I'll check out the renewed options, I've gone that route few times.

      How Is the tri-band router paired with dual band satellites setup ever beneficial? I'm having trouble understanding how it could be. The satellites can't communicate with the router on the 2nd 5ghz channel, can they?
      • CrimpOn's avatar
        CrimpOn
        Guru - Experienced User

        eblues wrote:
        How Is the tri-band router paired with dual band satellites setup ever beneficial? I'm having trouble understanding how it could be. The satellites can't communicate with the router on the 2nd 5ghz channel, can they?

        It costs $150 less.  $400 vs. $550.  (i.e. the Tri Band solution is 37% more costly.)

        Imagine a user who has ethernet wiring in place and thus has no need for WiFi backhaul.

        Or, imagine a user who has modest WiFi needs.  All the TV's use cable or satellite. An internet gaming is wired. The internet speed is only 200Mbps.  Those satellites may be able to handle modest user WiFi and backhaul all on one 5G channel.

        For either of those two consumers, paying more may not get them any observable benefit.

  • Thanks for the info guys. Very helpful.I'm slightly more network savvy today than I was yesterday.

     

    In regards to the AX3000 spec, could it be as simple as (4200 + 1800) / 2?

    • plemans's avatar
      plemans
      Guru - Experienced User

      It could be. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense but neither does pairing dual band satellites with a triband router. 

  • Just thought I'd follow up with what I ended up doing. I don't think I ever mentioned that we recently upgraded to a 1Gig connection.

     

    I bought an Amazon renewed Orbi 752 system for $229.  Yeah, just one satellite when I said I wanted two. My house is 62 feet from one end to the other. Frontier's Router/Modem is unfortunately installed on the extreme East wall. And my wife likes to run her iPad and laptop from the comfort of the bedroom, with the headboard up against the extreme West wall. So the Wifi basically needs to cover the full 62 feet.

    Yeah I could move the router, but who wants to climb into the attic to run a new cable. At 69 years old, not me! 

     

    Anyway, I figured I'd get the good deal on the renewed 752, and if ended up needing a 2nd satellite, I'd deal with that later... maybe Ebay or something. But as it turned out, with the one satellite placed near the center of the house (actually probably about 35-36 feet from the router), Mama's getting good service, with download  speeds in excess of 200Mbps.That's plenty good for YouTube videos, eh?  I'm only getting 250-350 on my desktop, and I'm sitting right next to the Satellite. The speed does vary quite a bit from one test to the next (Ookla Speed Test). With my laptop in the same room as the router, it gets around 500Mbps down. In most cases, uploads speeds seem to be only about 50-75% of download speeds.


    So, it looks like we're good to go. Thanks again to both of you for the enlightening discussion. Maybe this short thread will help others looking for similar info in the future.

     

    Herm

    • plemans's avatar
      plemans
      Guru - Experienced User

      Glad its working well for you and at a pretty cheap rate for a triband setup. 

      A couple things. 

      1. try several locations of the satellite. I moved mine around a couple times to try to optimize placement. Sometimes small things in the home (hvac, plumbing, etc) can block signals and a little move can help nicely. When I first started with mesh, i tried every combination I could so I know the best layout depending on how many satellites i have in my home. 

      1. try testing the speed hardwired into the satellites. That way when you're testing placement, its only testing the wireless backhaul. This allows the best way to figure out placement for the backhaul.