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captclam1
Nov 29, 2020Aspirant
Two X10s One in AP mode 802.11s supported?
I currently have my X10 as my router and two R6250R2 APs in AP mode (wired backhaul). Unfortunately, I have the world's worst handoff. I could replace two of the APs with one X10 (R9000) (flamethrower) but am worried it wouldn't be any better. However, the R9000 has a checkbox for Enable Smart Roaming. If the other R9000 does, does that mean it will fix my problem? The signal never gets low enough for it to be lost and handed off, so I can be sitting in a room with one of the APs five feet away at - 45db, and my tablet hold tight to the R9000 at -68db.
I ordered the Orbi Pro Ax6000 three device setup, planning to wire two of them, but hate to install it if another R9000 X10 will be better at 1/3rd the cost. (My R9000 would be unneeded then (waste))
Please advise. Going crazy here.
I ordered the Orbi Pro Ax6000 three device setup, planning to wire two of them, but hate to install it if another R9000 X10 will be better at 1/3rd the cost. (My R9000 would be unneeded then (waste))
Please advise. Going crazy here.
In AP mode, the R9000 doesn't use smart roaming. Even netgears extenders only support smart roaming while running in extender mode. Switch them to access point mode, and it doesn't roam properly.
I'd probably stick with the orbi setup if you're wanting seamless roaming.
8 Replies
- plemansGuru - Experienced User
In AP mode, the R9000 doesn't use smart roaming. Even netgears extenders only support smart roaming while running in extender mode. Switch them to access point mode, and it doesn't roam properly.
I'd probably stick with the orbi setup if you're wanting seamless roaming.
- captclam1Aspirant
The OrbiPro AX6000 is garbage. I stood it up last night, and put it back in the box within 2 hours. It doesn't support wired backhaul without totally trashing everything. No intervlan routing works, and the port aggregation features are totally unreliable- when connected to a Netgear switch! Dropped one of the trunks several times requiring reboot.
So if I have an R9000/X10, what do I need to do to have other wired APs, that support seamless handoff. I can't figure out a way to keep connections from dropped while switching from one to the other (as I indicated before). I can't understand why I can do it at work with my Cisco APs, and Meraki APs, but can't get a Netgear product that can do the same thing. Is it the wireless controller that controls the handoff in that situation? If so, how could that signal the mobile device? If that is 802.11s, and the X10 supports 802.11s, I can't understand why that won't work. Is the option really gone when you switch the X10 into AP mode?
Lot's of questions, I know, but I am going to go crazy if I don't get this solved.
- plemansGuru - Experienced User
captclam1 wrote:The OrbiPro AX6000 is garbage. I stood it up last night, and put it back in the box within 2 hours. It doesn't support wired backhaul without totally trashing everything. No intervlan routing works, and the port aggregation features are totally unreliable- when connected to a Netgear switch! Dropped one of the trunks several times requiring reboot.
----I'd actually give the orbi a chance and post in the orbi AX forum. I haven't used it but know of several who have. A couple settings changes/firmware changes might improve it for you. 2 hours isn't always enough for complicated setups.
So if I have an R9000/X10, what do I need to do to have other wired APs, that support seamless handoff. I can't figure out a way to keep connections from dropped while switching from one to the other (as I indicated before). I can't understand why I can do it at work with my Cisco APs, and Meraki APs,----you're comparing business class solutions to consumer grade solutions. If you want business grade, netgear has those. but can't get a Netgear product that can do the same thing. Is it the wireless controller that controls the handoff in that situation?----its not. Its the devices own roaming protocol but it requires the router/extender to be supporting it. Most extenders/router don't support it in access point mode as they're their own individual node. If so, how could that signal the mobile device? If that is 802.11s, and the X10 supports 802.11s, I can't understand why that won't work. Is the option really gone when you switch the X10 into AP mode?----I've double checked with a moderator and in both extenders and routers, it doesn't function for ap mode. Again, I'd try the orbi again but go through the orbi AX forum for assistance with configuration with your switches/setup. Be specific to your setup, firmwares, and how you're setting everthing for the best help.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-AX/bd-p/en-home-orbi-ax
Lot's of questions, I know, but I am going to go crazy if I don't get this solved.
- captclam1Aspirant
I did post over there. Apparently, there is no way to route an SSID so it can talk to the default wired network. I could configure the admin wireless for everyone to use, but it doesn't support SSID separation, and I need different SSIDs for 2.4 and 5ghz as several devices on my network refuse to connect with the Orbi deciding which network it belongs on. I tried this on the X10 as well, and everything connected to 2.4 no matter what.
So, if I left the second 10x in router mode, not AP mode, how could I accomplish what I want? It doesn't allow me to choose a different class C address range, so I would have to do a /26 or something for the DHCP on each. Considering the load between them isn't equal, and devices would move from one over to the other, they would lose their connection anyway because their source IP address would need to change when it connected to the second X10. I really don't understand why the X10 has the 802.11s feature enabled if I can't put a single other AP in the house that supports it without it being on a different network.
I am sure I am missing something, so please clue me in on what it is. I would think with $800+ invested in these R9000s I should be able to have my mobile devices move from one side of the house to the other, leveraging the stronger of the two signals, without dropping or hanging on to the other AP until the signal drops below -74db. HELP! Mesh is of no real value to me, as I have ethernet everywhere. There has to be a solution!