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NUKLRSOLDR
Dec 14, 2014Guide
Xbox one best settings?
Bottom line up front: I am in search of the settings that provide the best online experience specifically for Advanced Warfare (single xbox setup). I.E. provide the lowest latency experience.
No I am not having any significant issues and yes I have the latest firmware. And I have the xbox setup with a reserved IP address (Static IP). I connect with a wired connection using CAT 6 Cables from modem to router and router to xbox. I have Home Telecom for ISP from Moncks Corner SC, I have cable internet 50 mbps down and 10 mbps up.
Things I wish to address/ ask questions about:
Question #1: UPnP, Port forwarding, or DMZ? I can get an open NAT with any of these but which one will provide the lowest latency?
Question #2: Firewall, what are the best settings for xbox live? And if DMZ is used do these settings even matter?
Question #3: MTU some claim this makes a difference I have played with it but can't tell for sure if it affected latency. Will it improve latency to change the MTU to something lower than the default 1500?
Question #4 (Big Question): QoS, First of all the 2 besides the upstream. Wireless WMM, enable or dis enable? Downstream, I notice a custom rule can be setup to the xbox's MAC address, would this help or make latency worse? And finally, the upstream QoS, enable obviously....
Click Qos priority rule list; setup QoS rule and it shows the current rules and allows more to be created. By default xbox applications is only set to high while Skype and other useless things to me are set as highest. I changed everything that was preset as highest to high except for Netgear EVA (Not even sure what that is, anyone know?). And I set the xbox rule to Highest. So in summary Xbox and Netgear EVA are the only two set to highest everything else is something lower.
So to sum up Question #4: did i do more damage than good or is there an even better setup for this? I noticed I can setup custom rules and even just setup rules for the LAN port or MAC address, would either of those be better options?
Question #5: I know when setting up most QoS you have to put in your bandwidth and it must be something lower than your actual or else it all falls apart. (I.E. i get 10 mbps upstream, when I enter my upstream bandwidth in the router I must put something lower than what I actually get. Speed test vary from about 8 to 9 mbps, therefore i must put a value into the router no more than 8) When I click the button for speed test it auto puts in about 9.66 mbps. but i know sometimes i get less than that from my isp especially during peak times. So I conservatively set the upstream in the router to 8, does anybody see a problem with this or know why this QoS system would be different from others?
Recap: Upstream bandwidth actual vs. value place in router.
Question #6: Will turning off the wireless radios improve the wired connection latency or stability? and if so, would using a second router as an access point to handle the wireless side be a good option?
Question #7 (Last one): DNS servers. I can change them on the xbox itself, would it make any difference for the xbox if;
I let the xbox get DNS automatically and changed the router's DNS to google's (8.8.8.8),
rather than leaving the default ISP DNS in the router and manually changing them on the xbox to google's DNS?
Okay, so a lot of questions, I am not here to argue about the placeable effect and yes I understand that lag cannot be completely gotten rid of and it depends on many factors. The defaults work just fine but I have been playing Call of Duty for many years now with multiple ISP's and many different routers and setups I have learned that tweaking a setup just right gives people with no skill (like me) a nice advantage in most games. And if you combine the right setup with actual skill, well....You have all seen that person that is impossible to kill and you swear is hacking so you report them, but guess what they were not hacking. I know because I had a good setup once with verizon Fios and i was accused of cheating all the time. Unfortunately I cannot get Fiber optic internet where I live now.
Also, with everything I have tried so far, the Nighthawk is by far the best router I have ever used and I have already improved my average K/D after owning it for only a few days now.
No I am not having any significant issues and yes I have the latest firmware. And I have the xbox setup with a reserved IP address (Static IP). I connect with a wired connection using CAT 6 Cables from modem to router and router to xbox. I have Home Telecom for ISP from Moncks Corner SC, I have cable internet 50 mbps down and 10 mbps up.
Things I wish to address/ ask questions about:
Question #1: UPnP, Port forwarding, or DMZ? I can get an open NAT with any of these but which one will provide the lowest latency?
Question #2: Firewall, what are the best settings for xbox live? And if DMZ is used do these settings even matter?
Question #3: MTU some claim this makes a difference I have played with it but can't tell for sure if it affected latency. Will it improve latency to change the MTU to something lower than the default 1500?
Question #4 (Big Question): QoS, First of all the 2 besides the upstream. Wireless WMM, enable or dis enable? Downstream, I notice a custom rule can be setup to the xbox's MAC address, would this help or make latency worse? And finally, the upstream QoS, enable obviously....
Click Qos priority rule list; setup QoS rule and it shows the current rules and allows more to be created. By default xbox applications is only set to high while Skype and other useless things to me are set as highest. I changed everything that was preset as highest to high except for Netgear EVA (Not even sure what that is, anyone know?). And I set the xbox rule to Highest. So in summary Xbox and Netgear EVA are the only two set to highest everything else is something lower.
So to sum up Question #4: did i do more damage than good or is there an even better setup for this? I noticed I can setup custom rules and even just setup rules for the LAN port or MAC address, would either of those be better options?
Question #5: I know when setting up most QoS you have to put in your bandwidth and it must be something lower than your actual or else it all falls apart. (I.E. i get 10 mbps upstream, when I enter my upstream bandwidth in the router I must put something lower than what I actually get. Speed test vary from about 8 to 9 mbps, therefore i must put a value into the router no more than 8) When I click the button for speed test it auto puts in about 9.66 mbps. but i know sometimes i get less than that from my isp especially during peak times. So I conservatively set the upstream in the router to 8, does anybody see a problem with this or know why this QoS system would be different from others?
Recap: Upstream bandwidth actual vs. value place in router.
Question #6: Will turning off the wireless radios improve the wired connection latency or stability? and if so, would using a second router as an access point to handle the wireless side be a good option?
Question #7 (Last one): DNS servers. I can change them on the xbox itself, would it make any difference for the xbox if;
I let the xbox get DNS automatically and changed the router's DNS to google's (8.8.8.8),
rather than leaving the default ISP DNS in the router and manually changing them on the xbox to google's DNS?
Okay, so a lot of questions, I am not here to argue about the placeable effect and yes I understand that lag cannot be completely gotten rid of and it depends on many factors. The defaults work just fine but I have been playing Call of Duty for many years now with multiple ISP's and many different routers and setups I have learned that tweaking a setup just right gives people with no skill (like me) a nice advantage in most games. And if you combine the right setup with actual skill, well....You have all seen that person that is impossible to kill and you swear is hacking so you report them, but guess what they were not hacking. I know because I had a good setup once with verizon Fios and i was accused of cheating all the time. Unfortunately I cannot get Fiber optic internet where I live now.
Also, with everything I have tried so far, the Nighthawk is by far the best router I have ever used and I have already improved my average K/D after owning it for only a few days now.
- So with Black ops 3 coming out I wanted to make sure I was going to get the best experience that I could.
I did a lot of sole searching and research made the changes and did a proper reboot. So far my online experience is awesome and is like night and day compared to playing advanced warfare. I'm not sure if Black Ops 3 is the only reason or not but I will detail below what is currently working great for me.
On my modem (standard Xfinity modem/router with the 90/15 gb plan) I turned off the firewall completely and set to bridge mode. Then plugged my router into it. For the modem settings for me it was 10.0.0.1 and default username and password (admin and I can't remember PW but you can google it if you have Comcast.
On the nighthawk.
I updated the firmware.
Updated my time zone in the security menu.
Changed the DHCP reservation range to a max of .100
Setup Xbox with a reserved ip (static ip) of .150 (well outside the range of the reserved ips)
Setup port forwarding to the Xbox with
TCP: 80
UDP: 88, 500, 3544, 4500
Both: 53, 3074-3075, 3076, 1863, 16000
I left upnp on
Disabled SIP and set to open
Turned on upstream qos and used the built in speed test to set upload bandwidth.
Edited all default rules with a highest priority and changed to a high priority.
Changed the default Xbox priority from high to highest.
And set up a custom rule to my Xbox MAC address with highest priority.
On the Xbox:
I turned off Kinect and DVR
Left network ip settings to get automatically
But set dns manually (I use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4)
On my TV:
Game mode on
All reductions and motion smoothing off.
If you have the option choose refresh rate as close to 60 hz as possible
Proper reboot after all settings changed:
Unplug router
Then unplug modem
Then fully turn off Xbox (hold power button until it turns off)
Wait 1 minute then turn on Xbox
After Xbox is on wait at least 5 minutes before plugging in modem.
Wait for modem to fully turn on
Then plug in router and wait for it to fully turn on
Once Xbox connects to XBL go to network settings and run multiplayer test. After test hold all triggers and bumpers until the next screen pops up.
Some of this may not matter but it's what I did and knock on wood I continue to have an amazing experience as I have had so far with black ops 3.
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- MatMGuideI disabled QOS because I get Problems with QOS enabled.
I had only my xbox in the rules. But on this test (Quality-Test):
http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php
(Jave needed or if you use Linux IcedTea-Web have to be active)
My line gets not good. The Test shows me that my packets are out of order (on PC). This should not be a Problem but because of out of Order I have thousands of Packets retransmittet and several hundred packets my PC wants to have again because of that. It increases bandwith very much so I disabled QOS. (This ist not good !)
I don't understand why the Problems are there because as I chekced only my PC was online. But with disabled qos - all is good now and no Packets are lost or out of order :)
Not sure if it's only a problem on my line with cablemodem and R7000. - MatMGuide
MetroStar1974 wrote: Ok! You can also use your settings. Every connection is different and therefore the settings of your router could be also different for a better connection amd better latency.
I remarked that I improved speed and latency to the best using Google DNS. (my first DNS server is 8.8.4.4 and second server is 8.8.8.8, but you can also try to use it vice versa)
since google and akamai uses edns - you can always use it and should get the nearest downloadserver from akamai. XBOX live works in some parts with akamai.
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.de/2014/12/google-public-dns-and-location.html - MatMGuideok - new one :)
I have disabled game DVR and I have disabled Kinect completely.
Games like PES 2015 runs much better now. Today I had not as much Button lag like I always have on PES 2015.
Even I have to change from wired to wireless (5Ghz) but I think to disable Kinect (system Settings) and Game DVR helps alot. - So with Black ops 3 coming out I wanted to make sure I was going to get the best experience that I could.
I did a lot of sole searching and research made the changes and did a proper reboot. So far my online experience is awesome and is like night and day compared to playing advanced warfare. I'm not sure if Black Ops 3 is the only reason or not but I will detail below what is currently working great for me.
On my modem (standard Xfinity modem/router with the 90/15 gb plan) I turned off the firewall completely and set to bridge mode. Then plugged my router into it. For the modem settings for me it was 10.0.0.1 and default username and password (admin and I can't remember PW but you can google it if you have Comcast.
On the nighthawk.
I updated the firmware.
Updated my time zone in the security menu.
Changed the DHCP reservation range to a max of .100
Setup Xbox with a reserved ip (static ip) of .150 (well outside the range of the reserved ips)
Setup port forwarding to the Xbox with
TCP: 80
UDP: 88, 500, 3544, 4500
Both: 53, 3074-3075, 3076, 1863, 16000
I left upnp on
Disabled SIP and set to open
Turned on upstream qos and used the built in speed test to set upload bandwidth.
Edited all default rules with a highest priority and changed to a high priority.
Changed the default Xbox priority from high to highest.
And set up a custom rule to my Xbox MAC address with highest priority.
On the Xbox:
I turned off Kinect and DVR
Left network ip settings to get automatically
But set dns manually (I use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4)
On my TV:
Game mode on
All reductions and motion smoothing off.
If you have the option choose refresh rate as close to 60 hz as possible
Proper reboot after all settings changed:
Unplug router
Then unplug modem
Then fully turn off Xbox (hold power button until it turns off)
Wait 1 minute then turn on Xbox
After Xbox is on wait at least 5 minutes before plugging in modem.
Wait for modem to fully turn on
Then plug in router and wait for it to fully turn on
Once Xbox connects to XBL go to network settings and run multiplayer test. After test hold all triggers and bumpers until the next screen pops up.
Some of this may not matter but it's what I did and knock on wood I continue to have an amazing experience as I have had so far with black ops 3. - Being the perfectionist that I am, even though my previous settings worked really well. I have found more ways to improve my Black Ops 3 experience. It now feels as though I am cheating and perhaps I am because most people don't have this setup.
With port forwarding I deleted the 53 and 80 (my logs showed interesting activity)
I added the following: tcp and udp: 77, 3330, 2869, 10243, 10280-10284
Udp only: 1900
With reserved ip addresses I added every device that connects to my router to have an assigned address far from the Xbox (device 1 .101/ device 2 .102/ etc./ Xbox .200)
With qos I ran an upload speed test on test my.net and choose the 100 mb option. I got 9.5 previously I was getting 12 or so from speedtest.net. I set my qos upload bandwidth at 9.
Also I deleted all of the default rules and setup custom rules for each device on my network using the MAC address option. Giving Xbox highest priority and everything else normal priority.
I replaced the Comcast modem with the Motorola surfboard sb6183.
In wan settings check the box to enable respond to ping on Internet port.
If you are lucky enough to get IPv6 like I now do. Set that up under advanced settings. For me auto configure worked. Near the bottom with the two radial buttons don't use auto select the use dhcp option.
Also setup the Google IPv6 dns servers here.
If you run a test through the settings on the Xbox you should still see your .200 IP address instead of an IPv6 IP address but the dns servers should be the Google IPv6 ones.
To fully test go to the edge browser on the Xbox one and go to an IPv6 test website (Comcast has one) after that test you should get 10/10 and it should show your IP address as a IPv6 address in the browser.
Also go and setup the IPv4 dmz servers as googles IPv4 servers. (8.8.8.8)
You can turn the wifi off on the router if no one is using it by holding the wifi button on the router. This will make the router not have to work so hard if no one is using wifi.
Cables ensure all cables are tight. I recommend upgrading them if you have the cash (cat6).
Xbox: plug directly into wall outlet (this is explained by Microsoft as important) not a power strip.
I noticed recently that there is an option in settings where you can set 60 hz refresh rate It was on by default for me but I disabled allow the 50 hz and other lower hz options.
I also adjusted some other things that my tv could support like the color depth to 36.
I also turned off smart glass connections.
I just upgraded my day one edition to the new elite bundle. OMG it is crazy. I used to load into matches and the timer would be between 2 - 10 sec until the round starts. Sometimes the match had already begun. Now every time I'm the first person in and the clock is 14 - 16 sec. Every time! Not sure if it's the Xbox contributed but after about 4 hrs playing online with the new console I have yet to have any lag that can't be explained by other people's connections.- alex-devineAspirant
Hi,
I found this post while browsing Google Search, some days i have amazing games and other days it just seems to lag a lot. I am currently working my way though your guide NUKLRSOLDR.
I did some tweaks last night before going to a football match and i plan to continue this evening. I would like to thank you for taking your own time to document your tweaks and fixes.
I will report back soon, thanks again :)
- So I'm not sure exactly why somethings work and others don't. Certainly there are a lot of debates over many router settings.
But when the router is working correctly it is a night and day difference. Last night as I seemed to be having more lag than usual I assumed a reboot might be needed but no dice. So I thought it's just gonna be one of those nights I'm better off playing something else. Then I thought about something that was so crazy it just might work.
I made two changes but I suspect it was not the turning off of downstream qos.
This router was designed to work with Xbox live. Simply to just work even with multiple consoles.
You see all over not to use a combination of upnp or dmz or port forwarding so that they don't conflict with each other. Well I thought I saw before that I got open nat with none of these. So even using one might conflict with the basic firmware. So I turned all off and immediately all the lag was gone and it seemed that god mode was once again enabled. And still had open nat.- alex-devineAspirant
If you want to fix ALL your lag issues buy a netduma.
Best router on the market, i ordered one and no more messing with settings to try and get perfect gaming. this fixes all issues with lag :)
- I've heard of it and I think that is the way I'm about to go. Are there any downsides to a netduma?
- alex-devineAspirant
No downsides to anything yet. great bit of kit. saw me go from like 35-40 kills to an easy 65+ per game of Dom :)
Read the forums and the start up wiki to get it started and tweak like a boss!
Best item i ever invested in for the console.
- What console do you use? I assume the natgeo thing works with Xbox one?
- alex-devineAspirant
Morning,
It works with PS4, Xbox One and PC. I am on Xbox One :)
Regarding netduma, experience trumps theory, so I defer to alex-devine's testimony regarding the superiority of the R1 towards gaming. I took a quick peak at the featureset and it's very much geared towards maximizing player performance. WRT hardware, the R1 doesn't hold a candle to Nighthawk routers. The R1 is a 802.11b/g/n, 2.4 GHz only router. It doesn't support 5 GHz or 802.11ac.
There's a really good R1 review over on reddit. The poster even compares it with his R7000. Interesting fact: The R1 runs a customized version of OpenWRT.
Bottom line: Know what you are getting and make sure it meets your needs.