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trentvoigt
Nov 21, 2022Aspirant
Ready Cloud not seeing new files added NAS 3312
I have a NAS 3312 running version 6.10.8 which says is latest version. Originally, using Ready Cloud, users could see the folders but no files under the folders. I finally blew away all the user...
trentvoigt
Nov 21, 2022Aspirant
I clicked on RESET and it allowed access afterwards, but it did not solve the issue as new files after the RESET are in the same spot. Both the grant rename and specify permissions are already checked.
So unless the admin is there to reset every time a file goes in, this is not a working solution.
Trent
StephenB
Nov 21, 2022Guru - Experienced User
trentvoigt wrote:
So unless the admin is there to reset every time a file goes in, this is not a working solution.
The other thing I suggested was to give everyone read/write file permissions, and use only network access permissions to manage access.
- trentvoigtNov 22, 2022Aspirant
Everyone has read/write access to specific areas. If they can see the share they have read/write. Obviously, I can't give every user access to every area. However, that is controlled by user to share privilege. Currently if they have access to an area they have read/write. However, obviously Ready Cloud doesn't recognize Read because they can't see anything.
Obviously there is a bug somewhere or there would not be a "Reset" button.
So what is the solution?
- StephenBNov 22, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Note that file permissions can also be set and changed by the owner/creator of the file/folder in Windows. So it's hard to say whether you are dealing with a ReadyNAS bug or not. (it's also one reason why I generally prefer to rely on network permissions alone).
Another complication with ReadyCloud is that users generally have two accounts - their ReadyCloud account, and their normal user account that is used when on-premise. FWIW, I don't use ReadyCloud myself, I use OpenVPN for remote access.
I guess you could go with ssh, and examine exactly how the linux file permissions are set on the problem files/folders, and maybe also look at the samba configuration settings.
trentvoigt wrote:
Everyone has read/write access to specific areas. If they can see the share they have read/write.
There are two sets of permissions - network access and file permissions. Users need to have both to access a file in a share.
Generally network access is enough to manage who can access the share (and whether they have read-only access or read/write). When that is the case, it is ok to set "everyone" read/write file permissions.
trentvoigt wrote:
If they can see the share they have read/write.
Usually they can see all shares, whether they can access them or not. The exception is the private "home" folders, which aren't really shares.
- SandsharkNov 22, 2022Sensei - Experienced User
It sounds to me that you have the local and ReadyNAS users as being parts of different groups. I personally think that the whole basis of ReadyCloud where a local and remote user can't be the same is flawed.
IMHO, the best solution to this is to dump ReadyCloud in favor of a VPN system that doesn't require different logins for local and remote access (and different home folders, if you use them). OpenVPN (most typically installed in a router) and ZeroTier (on the NAS) are good choices. They act differently, so which way you go depends a lot on your use model. I personally use ZeroTier, but it's just my family that has access. If you ever migrate to another brand NAS, these options will also remain open to you, where ReadyCloud won't. You don't have to stop using ReadyCloud just because you installed the other VPN. They will work together (well, ReadyCloud at least as well as it is now) while users get used to the transition.
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