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NASguru
May 08, 2020Apprentice
Which apps are a must have for your NAS?
I'v kept my NAS fairly simple only having Plex and Piwigo installed. At the time of purchase, there was a trasition from OS 4.X to OS6.X so the app offerings were all over the place with a lot not b...
Sandshark
May 09, 2020Sensei - Experienced User
Linux-dash is probably the best for overall additional monitoring. For anything else, it all depends on what you want your NAS to do, with the processing power of your particular NAS being a potential issue. The lower powered CPU and less RAM the NAS has, the fewer apps you want to run.
I run very few apps, though I have a powerful rack-mount NAS. I have OwnCloud on an OS6 converted Pro2 (that mounts some shares from my primary NAS as read-only), and my main one runs DDClient and Zerotier. Both also run Eaton Intellegent Power Protector (IPP) and HDSentinel, which I installed via SSH. I use Zerotier instead of ReadyCloud for remote access (including remote backup, which ReadyCloud does not include) and DDClient because I need it for OwnCloud and remote access to my surveillance system and just never moved it to the Pro2 or surveillance system computer. Eaton IPP is unique to Eaton UPS's, providing a lot more info than the bult-in NUT, and I like the way i can have HDSentinel create drive summaries for my main and backup NAS, with the ones from the other NAS copied to the main one for review even when they are powered down.
I don't use Plex or ReadyDLNA because my media box can access media via SMB or NFS and I don't store anything that's going to need transcoding to watch/listen to.
Unfortunately, some of the apps are becoming a little long in the tooth. From what I have seen here, Netgear's support to app developers is abysmal, so I'm not surprised. Right now, for example, they cannot build anything for OS6.10.3 on an ARM system because Netgear "left out" required items from the development package. And similar things have happened before.
Note that there are also apps that are not available through the official Netgear path. Some are on GitHub (like ZeroTier) and WhoCares https://rnxtras.com/ is also very popular. He does charge a minimal fee to help offset keeping his site up, but it's quite reasonable and he does a bang-up job of keeping his apps up to date (when Netgear doesn't throw down obstacles). My OwnCloud installatrion is his version.
StephenB
May 09, 2020Guru - Experienced User
I also take a very minimal approach. My main NAS only has SMB Plus installed. SSH is enabled, and I installed iperf with that.
Overall, running a lot of apps can create issues when upgrading firmware. Some also can fill the OS partition - which can corrupt the NAS configuration. So I've decided to pair my NAS with an application server (a desktop PC that is always on, and has the NAS data volume mounted to a drive letter). That gives me more flexibility (since I can upgrade the PC and the NAS independently), and eliminates any risk of an app interfering with a firmware upgrade (or vice versa).
- NASguruMay 09, 2020Apprentice
StephenB wrote:I also take a very minimal approach. My main NAS only has SMB Plus installed. SSH is enabled, and I installed iperf with that.
Overall, running a lot of apps can create issues when upgrading firmware. Some also can fill the OS partition - which can corrupt the NAS configuration. So I've decided to pair my NAS with an application server (a desktop PC that is always on, and has the NAS data volume mounted to a drive letter). That gives me more flexibility (since I can upgrade the PC and the NAS independently), and eliminates any risk of an app interfering with a firmware upgrade (or vice versa).
Agreed, minimal is best if you have other options but apps should not be overrunning the OS partition. Admittedly, I have limited knowledge of how the apps work with the Linux OS and whether or not they need to be installed in the same partition as the OS or if their data piece can be installed in a separate partition all together. Please excuse my ignorance either way. :smileywink:
I didn't realize there is a SMB Plus add-on but have been fine with the default SMB service native to the NAS. Although, I'm curious to what it offers above/beyond the standard offering. Right, I have SSH enabled as well but not iperf. I didn't see iperf in the app store so you must have done it manually which is intriguing. Again, I appreciate the feedback as it seems you and Sandshark are the only two on this forum at times. :smileylol:
- StephenBMay 09, 2020Guru - Experienced User
FWIW, I do have plex running on one of my NAS at the moment. Plex can be pretty tempermental about remote access, and there is an issue there on my current application server that I haven't had a chance to sort out.
NASguru wrote:
I didn't realize there is a SMB Plus add-on but have been fine with the default SMB service native to the NAS. Although, I'm curious to what it offers above/beyond the standard offering.
It just gives you access to a couple of optional settings. For instance, you can turn off SMB1 if you like.
NASguru wrote:
I didn't see iperf in the app store so you must have done it manually which is intriguing.Yes, i installed it with apt-get so I could make some network performance measurements.
- SandsharkMay 09, 2020Sensei - Experienced User
Agreed that apps should not be filling the OS partition, but some are not as well behaved as they should be. Plex and MySQL have been guilty of doing it for some users, though I think MySQL issues may be more related to the other apps that utilize it for their databases.
If you install something from SSH, the best plan is to create a folder in the /apps folder (which is on the data volume) and move the contents of the app folder there, then replace the original folder with a simlink to the one in /apps. For small apps that you know will not create a database or log that can grow out of control or leave other "junk" about (like transcoding fragments form Plex), it's less important.
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