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Nibbles0522
Jul 15, 2020Aspirant
How does a Linux user logon to their account on a Readynas
ReadyNas Rn104 - Firmware: OS 6.10.3 ReadyCloud: Enabled Share protocols enabled: SMB, NFS, AFP, HTTP Environment: Linux home network. All devices running Linux Mint 19.3 or 20 A few months ago, ...
- Jul 22, 2020
Thanks to all for your helpful responses.
Unfortunately, all they have done is confirmed my opinion that the ReadyNas is NOT suitable for the Linux environment. I don't see why Iit should be necessary to install Samba on every machine on the network simply to access a ReadyNas, which is after all a Linux device.
I have instead decided to abandon the ReadynNas and install the drives in a JBOD enclosure driven by a Raspbery Pi. I can acheive everything I want to much more easily.
It's a shame, as I was given 2 of these boxes which, had they been more flexible, could have proved useful.
Thanks again and goodbye
StephenB
Jul 16, 2020Guru - Experienced User
schumaku wrote:
using SMB and the admin user UI does allow the access, missed to add this.
Well, yes it allows the admin to access the files. It doesn't work very well if you try to upload files in the folders though (since the file owner won't be right). Plus there is the ReadyCloud user issue.
The feature certainly makes sense in enterprises. But I still think it is best avoided if you are a home NAS user.
Nibbles0522
Jul 22, 2020Aspirant
Thanks to all for your helpful responses.
Unfortunately, all they have done is confirmed my opinion that the ReadyNas is NOT suitable for the Linux environment. I don't see why Iit should be necessary to install Samba on every machine on the network simply to access a ReadyNas, which is after all a Linux device.
I have instead decided to abandon the ReadynNas and install the drives in a JBOD enclosure driven by a Raspbery Pi. I can acheive everything I want to much more easily.
It's a shame, as I was given 2 of these boxes which, had they been more flexible, could have proved useful.
Thanks again and goodbye
- SandsharkJul 23, 2020Sensei
Nibbles0522 wrote:Thanks to all for your helpful responses.
Unfortunately, all they have done is confirmed my opinion that the ReadyNas is NOT suitable for the Linux environment. I don't see why Iit should be necessary to install Samba on every machine on the network simply to access a ReadyNas, which is after all a Linux device.
I have instead decided to abandon the ReadynNas and install the drives in a JBOD enclosure driven by a Raspbery Pi. I can acheive everything I want to much more easily.
It's a shame, as I was given 2 of these boxes which, had they been more flexible, could have proved useful.
Thanks again and goodbye
And with that configuration you will need to address exactly the same issues with NFS that have been discussed for the ReadyNAS. As has already been described, it is absolutely not necessary to use SAMBA to access shares on the ReadyNAS -- you can use NFS. It is necessary to do so and control user access easily; not because of any shortcomings of the ReadyNAS, but due to the way NFS works. NFS does not control access, it leaves that to the system accessing it. When access to all systems is controlled via Kerberos or similar, then that does make it easier. But a NAS is not a full-blown server that runs Kerberos.
Since you said goodbye, you may not read this. But I did not want to leave this thread for other users to read and incorrectly believe that the conclusion reached is a valid one.
- Nibbles0522Jul 23, 2020Aspirant
Hi there... again and thanks for your reply, but from what I gleaned from the previous responses, it IS necessary to log on as a SAMBA user if the user directories are to be created. There is no provision for user logon to the NAS via the network using anything other than SAMBA, and the only way the user directories get created is by user logon.
This was the whole thrust of my initial question: How does a Linux user log on to a ReadyNas? and the answer appears to be: using SAMBA. It would seem that the ReadyNas approach is for users to mount admin created shares, not for users to logon with an ID and create their own.
Sandshark wrote:
Nibbles0522 wrote:Thanks to all for your helpful responses.
Unfortunately, all they have done is confirmed my opinion that the ReadyNas is NOT suitable for the Linux environment. I don't see why Iit should be necessary to install Samba on every machine on the network simply to access a ReadyNas, which is after all a Linux device.
I have instead decided to abandon the ReadynNas and install the drives in a JBOD enclosure driven by a Raspbery Pi. I can acheive everything I want to much more easily.
It's a shame, as I was given 2 of these boxes which, had they been more flexible, could have proved useful.
Thanks again and goodbye
And with that configuration you will need to address exactly the same issues with NFS that have been discussed for the ReadyNAS. As has already been described, it is absolutely not necessary to use SAMBA to access shares on the ReadyNAS -- you can use NFS. It is necessary to do so and control user access easily; not because of any shortcomings of the ReadyNAS, but due to the way NFS works. NFS does not control access, it leaves that to the system accessing it. When access to all systems is controlled via Kerberos or similar, then that does make it easier. But a NAS is not a full-blown server that runs Kerberos.
Since you said goodbye, you may not read this. But I did not want to leave this thread for other users to read and incorrectly believe that the conclusion reached is a valid one.
There is no user logon facility (that I can find) using http, which would be the simplest way for users from any OS platform and was the way in which my ancient Seagate GoFlex_Home worked and was the way that I had hoped the ReadyNas would work, but it does not.
- SandsharkJul 23, 2020Sensei
Since NFS is not "authenticated access", it is necessary that sombody log in to the NAS with with that account using another method for the user folder to be created automatically. That somebody can be the admin. But, you don't have to use the automatic home folders at all, which would make it much more like your RasPi solution.
Since you are apparently familiar with Linux, there is also a command-line tool accessable via SSH, mkhomedir_helper, that can be used to create the user home folders. Just run it with the user name as the argument.
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