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Max_NAS
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Aug 23, 2018
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ReadyNAS 316 additional drives

I have two 3.0TB WD Red drives (WD30EFRX, September 2014) in my 6 bay RE316.

It's time to expand my data capacity, and I was hoping someone could advise on my best options.

Would I need to buy another pair of the same drives to double capacity? Or can I install a single higher capacity drive?

 

Thanks,

 

Max

 

 


  • Max_NAS wrote:

    I have two 3.0TB WD Red drives (WD30EFRX, September 2014) in my 6 bay RE316.

    It's time to expand my data capacity, and I was hoping someone could advise on my best options.

    Would I need to buy another pair of the same drives to double capacity? Or can I install a single higher capacity drive?

     

     


    The capacity rule for XRAID single redundancy is "sum the drives and subtract the largest".  So in your case adding one additional 3 TB drive will double your capacity. 

     

    You could add a larger drive (say a  6 TB WD60EFRX), but you'd only be using 3 TB of it's capacity until you added a second one of that size.  Some do plan ahead and do that - over the long haul, larger drives are often more cost effective.  But you still have plenty of empty bays, and if your storage needs are growing slowly it might not be a good strategy for you.

     

    You can't add a smaller drive though.

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    • Max_NAS's avatar
      Max_NAS
      Tutor

      Thanks Roland,

      I'm not familiar with all the raid options - currently using X-RAID.

      If I understand the configurator correctly, the addition of just a single new 3TB drive seems the most effective (capacity up from 2.72 to 5.44, with no unused space) - would this be the best option?

       

      Max

       

       

      • Marc_V's avatar
        Marc_V
        NETGEAR Employee Retired

        Hi Max_NAS

         

         

        Your current NAS configuration is RAID1 where in the 1st disk is mirrored by the 2nd. If you want to expand your volume capacity adding a 3rd disk would be the best option.

         

        This will not only make your volume capacity bigger it also retains data protection with a single disk failure by changing your RAID1 configuration to RAID5 due to your NAS is configured using XRAID.

         

        With disks option WD Reds is okay since you already have that model installed on your NAS and it is actually a NAS purposed drive it is advisable to use the same disk size and if you plan on using higher capacity drives, it would be advisable to change all your current ones to the same size to properly utilize it.

         

        Hope this helps!

         


        Regards

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User

    Max_NAS wrote:

    I have two 3.0TB WD Red drives (WD30EFRX, September 2014) in my 6 bay RE316.

    It's time to expand my data capacity, and I was hoping someone could advise on my best options.

    Would I need to buy another pair of the same drives to double capacity? Or can I install a single higher capacity drive?

     

     


    The capacity rule for XRAID single redundancy is "sum the drives and subtract the largest".  So in your case adding one additional 3 TB drive will double your capacity. 

     

    You could add a larger drive (say a  6 TB WD60EFRX), but you'd only be using 3 TB of it's capacity until you added a second one of that size.  Some do plan ahead and do that - over the long haul, larger drives are often more cost effective.  But you still have plenty of empty bays, and if your storage needs are growing slowly it might not be a good strategy for you.

     

    You can't add a smaller drive though.

  • Hi all,

    I'm starting to get capacity notifications again, so it's time to add a new hard drive(s).

    As my ReadyNAS 316 is 10 years old, and two of the three WD Red 3Tb drives also quite old, I decided to run a disk test - but have no idea how long it's going to run for or what kind or results to expect (see attached).

    Regardless of the results, would the community recommend adding a new WD Red to my current system? It seems WD Red 3Tb is no longer available, but a WD Red Plus 4Tb should give me 3Tb. (3+3+3+4-4 = 9Tb)

    Or should I replace all drives to be safe?

    Thanks,

    • Sandshark's avatar
      Sandshark
      Sensei - Experienced User

      Not an easy question to answer, since it depends a lot on your specific use.  It especially matters how much a volume failure would cost you (in time, lost data is you have no backup, etc.) vs. real cost for more new drives.  Are you currently seeing any ATA errors, re-allocated sectors, or pending sectors?  If you are, then replacement begins to look even better.

       

      Keep in mind that at some time you're going to need to replace those three older drives.  That means three re-sync operations, which are hard on drives.  Failure of a second drive during re-sync and subsequent loss of the volume is more likely to occur with older drives.

       

      Keep in mind you don't have to replace them all to get full use with bigger ones -- just two.  Swapping two for 6TB ones also gives you an extra 3TB and swapping two for 8TBs gives you an additional 5TB.  Then you can still replace the last one later for an additional 3 or 5TB.  For me, 8TB drives is currently my minimum unless I'm recycling old ones.  Anything smaller costs more per TB.

       

      BTW, if you put them in alternating bays (1,3,5 or 2,4,6) they'll run a little cooler.

      • Max_NAS's avatar
        Max_NAS
        Tutor

        Thank you Sandshark and StephenB  for your responses - it's reassuring to know this community is really helpful!

         

        Quick summary of my RE316 use;
        1. Mostly storage of old project files (CAD, 3d models, renderings, videos), each project in 10-30Gb zip files.
        2. Archives of old cad software, photos, music, etc.
        3. Also backup of C: drive.
        4. Power on at 9am, off at 11pm every week day.
        5. Incremental backups of current project files from PC to NAS using Acronis, every 3 hours.
        6. Daily backups of C: drive
        7. Occasional retrieval of old project files (ie. copying 30Gb zip files back to PC)
        8. Never snapshots
        9. Acronis creates one full backup version after every 10 incremental backups.

         

        The disk test I ran last night returned "Disk test failed on disk in channel 4, model WDC_WD30EFRX-68EUZNO, serial, etc.". This is the first time I've seen an error in the 10 years I've had this NAS, is it something to worry about?
        Thanks for the info about staggering them into 2,4,6 - I didn't know that was possible.

         

        Question now is - do I need to urgently replace the channel 4 disk, or should I add more disks or remove contents to get back down to say 50% total capacity and survive another few years?

    • StephenB's avatar
      StephenB
      Guru - Experienced User

      Max_NAS wrote:

       

      I'm starting to get capacity notifications again,


      What snapshot settings are you using?

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