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torstein_osborg's avatar
Jan 03, 2017

Smart error on disc WD2002FAEX - like to change to bigger discs

Hi

 

One of my 2gb disc's Western Digital WD2002FAEX gives me a SMART error:

 

"Detected increasing uncorrectable errors[172] on

disk 3 [WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0, WD-WMAY00807383].

This often indicates an impending failure. Please be prepared to replace this disk to maintain data redundancy."

 

 

My question is:

I have 5 discs of same type and age, runnin x-raid2. I will change all of them, and put in, if possible, only 3 bigger discs.

 

I like to increase disc size to bigger than 2 gbyte, preferably 6 gbyte.

 

So what disc's do you recommend and how do i do the change from 4 pcs 2gbyte to 3 new bigger ones, or do i have to use 5 discs when changing all 5?

 

Thanks in advance!!

 

My setup

Hostname:NNNNxxxNNN
Model:ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Plus [X-RAID2]
Serial:2H1xxxxxxxxxx
Firmware:RAIDiator 4.2.28 
Memory:1024 MB [6-6-6-18 DDR2]
IPv4 address: 1:Not Connected
IPv4 address: 2:192.168.0.5
Volume C:Online, X-RAID2, 5 disks, 84% of 7399 GB used

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Torstein

11 Replies

  • I think you meant 6 TB, not 6 GB...

     

    There are some expansion limits with 4.2.x firmware.

    1. You cannot expand a volume over a 16 TiB ceiling
    2. You cannot expand a volume more than 8 TiB from its starting point.

    If you started with 5x2TB then you hit both these limitations at about the same time - you can grow the volume from 8 TB to 16 TB but no further.

     

    So if you stay with 4.2.x firmware you can upgrade to 5x4 TB, but not 5x6 TB.

     

    If you want to go higher you can convert your ReadyNAS to run OS 6.  That doesn't have these expansion limits.  Netgear doesn't support that conversion, but many people have done it, and there is information here on how to do it.  The process does require a factory reset, so you would need to restore all the files from backup after the process is finished.

     

    You do want to be careful on when you choose very large disks - manufacturers are shifting to alternative mounting positions on the drives, so you should make sure that enough mounting holes are aligned with the tray so you can screw them in.  Usually you can google this info.  Also, you should avoid SMR drives (Seagate archival drives for example).  They are cost effective for archival, but aren't well suited for RAID.

     


    torstein_osborg wrote:

     

    So what disc's do you recommend and how do i do the change from 4 pcs 2gbyte to 3 new bigger ones, or do i have to use 5 discs when changing all 5?

     

     


    You have to replace at least two drives to get space increase - the capacity formula for XRAID single redundancy is "sum the drives and subtract the largest".  I always hot-swap - removing the first drive and replacing it with the NAS running.  Then after the volume resyncs, repeat the process with the next.  Be sure the process is done.

     

    As far as drives go, I personally go with NAS-purposed drives (I use WDC Reds, though Seagate Ironwolf is another option).  These aren't quite as fast as enterprise drives, but they run a lot cooler.  Enterprise-class is of course also an option, for instance the WDC Red Pro drives.

     

    • torstein_osborg's avatar
      torstein_osborg
      Aspirant

      Thanks StephenB.

       

      I have now 5 pcs new 4 TB disks ready. (WD Red 4TB 3.5" NAS HDD)

      I am currently uploading all data to jottacloud.

       

      I will not update OS this time.

       

      When backup is finish i will replace one bye one, wait for resync in between.

       

      I have 2 of 5 old disks reporting SMART error.

       

       

      q:

      Should i start to change the disks with errors first, or should i start from top and change one by one (1+2+3+4+5 from top and down)?

       

       

      Hostname: Mamma

      Model: ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Plus [X-RAID2]
      Serial: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Firmware: RAIDiator 4.2.30
      Memory: 1024 MB [6-6-6-18 DDR2]

      IPv4 address: 1: 192.168.0.4

      IPv4 address: 2: 192.168.0.5

      Volume C: Online, X-RAID2, 5 disks, 84% of 7399 GB used

       

      • StephenB's avatar
        StephenB
        Guru

        torstein_osborg wrote:

         

        I have 2 of 5 old disks reporting SMART error.

         

        Should i start to change the disks with errors first, or should i start from top and change one by one (1+2+3+4+5 from top and down)?

         

         


        It always risky when two disks have errors.  If you can make a backup first you should.

         

        You want to replace the disk in the worst shape first.  If you aren't sure which one that is, perhaps post the SMART errors you are seeing on the two drives.

         

        After that replace the other disk with errors.

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