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User field in the ReadyNas NV+ to short for windows 10 live account
My 10+ year old windows 7 64 pro PC was just replaced and I find out a major headache which I hope there is a easy solution to both worlds. My old PC was running a local account ie " God " and my na...
Fire is out and no need for a firmware update to let the nas use account info longer then 20 charactors or having to run a "non live" windows 10 account =P.
So I was being a blockhead as I did know the answer.
In my case I couldn't access the Nas with my known credentials was because Windows 10 was displaying me as a Domain PC.
Starting to suspect I logged back into my windows 10 live account and back to the basics I used "local/god" in the user field with the standard password (as I deleted my previous entery in the credental manager). Walha I can now access all my exsiting nas directories like I could under windows 7 or as a local account with windows 10.
Maybe someone can explain why windows 10 ( at least when running a live account ( ie user account someone@hotmail.com)) thinks it should act like it's on a domain when configured as part of a workgroup? Or at least on this fresh clean windows 10 pro install. Note: a explaination is not a responsibility of the Netgear comunity but it would help other down the road who might read this post witht the same problem of Nas access with windows 10.
If your PC user name and password do not match an account on the NAS, the NAS should prompt you for a name and password. Enter your old ones. If you don't want to have to do that every time, click the box that tells Windows to rememember the information in the Credentials Manager.
I knew the account information was different as I wanted to use my hotmail acccount as my username. I was hoping that someone knew of a trick so I could use an account on the NAS that was 22 charactors long, for the NAS will only accept 20.
I also entered my old user account info in the windows account manager for the NAS address under the live account which Windows 10 now accepts. The nas or windows rejected so I presume either I am over looking something or some authorization failed.
As for the lack of suggestions I'm presuming the NETgear ReadyNasNV+ has gone the way of the dino, became a fossil. Not buying another so I will not know if other models or manufacturers have the same 20 charactor limitation.
It's sad since it was such a good unit which I dont see being outdated, just over looked for company profits.
This post Permissions-Windows-10-RTM also here was parallel to my issue even though it didn't have a successful outcome either.
Cosmic75 wrote:
I'm presuming the NETgear ReadyNasNV+ has gone the way of the dino, became a fossil.
Unfortunately, the NV+ v1 simply doesn't have competitive performance anymore. It's a solid product (mine is still running) but newer ARM-based NAS are both faster and less expensive. So it really didn't make sense for Netgear to continue to sell it.
Cosmic75 wrote:
As for the lack of suggestions.
You DID get suggestions that would solve the problem, you just didn't like them.
THE best approach for you is use a simple account name on the NAS (without the @, etc) and enter it into the Windows Credential Manager. The PC will then use it automatically. That works with Windows 7 and Windows 10.
Hello Stephen,
That was posted in the OP was the so called solution, no wonder I didn't like them.. Not trying to be offensive but its like answering " it's easy if you search the web" and claiming that to be the solution (On Redit you call it trolling). Or in my case keeping this post alive =P
I agree with "The best approach for you is use a simple account name on the NAS (without the @, etc) and enter it into the Windows Credential Manager. The PC will then use it automatically. That works with Windows 7 and Windows 10." That unfortunely doesn't work and I would like to know why. I gave up on going with a live account on windows 10 as I would reather have access to the nas data.
So from my windows 10 non live account I will call the user account "idiot" and from my live account "idiot@hotmail.com".
Logged in under "idiot" and there is no sign of the "\\nas" credintal but I can access the nas and even the privite share "\\nas\idiot" with out a hitch.
Logind in under "idiot@hotmail.com" which there is a entry for the Nas in the credintal manager ( which I have deleted, edited and tried everything I know of) and is set up with the "idiot" . I can access the nas but always under the guest permissions and the "\\nas\idiot" location ( which I should see but I do) reports back non accessible. Now it would make sense if I have incorrect login info in the credintal manager but I dont, so what is the reason?
My guess is a simple setting on tha nas and if not then it would be with the way Windows 10 works (as I didnt have these problems running windows 7 on my old PC), which then I feel a firmware update would be the best for all users out there.
Also are you running windows 10pro on with your nas? Does your Nas show you as a Persistence of "local machine" or a "enterprise"?
Thanks for your time.
Cosmic75 wrote:
Also are you running windows 10pro on with your nas? Does your Nas show you as a Persistence of "local machine" or a "enterprise"?
I am running Windows 10 Pro. I use local accounts, not the microsoft logon (and no AD). Also I don't use the PIN logon method. The workgroup on the NAS matches the workgroup of the PCs.
The NAS all do show up as "storage devices", and when I click on them in the left network pane, it launches file explorer and shows the share list. My duo v1 and nv+ v1 are both running 4.1.15-T3.
I have no need for multi-user access controls, so the only user on the NAS is "admin". I configured the windows credential to use "admin" (actually I have two credentials - one for the NAS name, and another for the NAS IP address). The credential persistance is "enterprise".
NOTE: edited out other stuff, since you have solved the problem...
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