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Dewdman42
Aug 26, 2025Virtuoso
Which backup method?
So there are two primary backup methods provided in frontview, for purpose of backing up my volume data. There is the so called "File Backup" and there is ReadyDR. I'm assuming my machine (524x) su...
Dewdman42
Sep 01, 2025Virtuoso
I don’t have another bad to do remote rsync. Local backup does not provide any options to select protocol. I am wondering what protocol it is using for local backup. When I ran a backup, ps only shows backup running
Sandshark
Sep 01, 2025Sensei - Experienced User
You can do a local rsync backup by specifying localhost (127.0.0.1) as the "remote" source/destination.
But "local backup" is an oxymoron. True backup is on a separate device so a hardware failure doesn't render both unusable.
- Dewdman42Sep 01, 2025Virtuoso
all true. If I am doing local is that would you would recommend? Using rsync instead of the fvbackup local option?
But maybe I should think more about resurrecting that old readynas for backup duties.
- Dewdman42Sep 01, 2025Virtuoso
I also do currently backup to idrive cloud by the way in the case that the readynas entirely dies.
- StephenBSep 01, 2025Guru - Experienced User
Sandshark wrote:
But "local backup" is an oxymoron. True backup is on a separate device so a hardware failure doesn't render both unusable.
True if the destination and source are both internal disks. But often one is a USB drive. I believe that is the case here.
Dewdman42 - if you are using the local-to-local backup, then it would be better to switch to rsync, and use 127.0.0.1 as the destination. Now you are using cp.
Personally I think using the old Ultra 2 for backup is better than using a USB drive.
- Dewdman42Sep 01, 2025Virtuoso
True if the destination and source are both internal disks. But often one is a USB drive. I believe that is the case here.
well I do think he still makes a good case. yes the USB external drive can go offline without having to be exported and so forth...but in the end I would need to find at the very least another Linux system to plug it into and restore my data should the readynas hardware blow up. I think USB external is better than nothing and particularly since I also have idrive backup happening, but ideally I'd a dedicated backup server. No question. The only reason I'm hesitating a moment on that is because I have itchy hands trying to pull cash out of my pocket to get a new 2025 modern NAS, in which case I'd probably use the 524X as my dedicated backup server rather then the Ultra2Plus.
Also there is the whole ransomware attack argument, if its plugged into the same readynas, then hacker can get to it at the same time they got to the main raid volume. If I don't expose it as SMB then less likely to get hit by ransomware, however I was also going to backup some Macs and PC's to other SMB shares...so they would be exposed. Unless I set them up as rsync also I suppose... But who knows what all weird thing could happen if the readynas were blowing up and did something weird to the USB attached drive. It's definitely best practice to have it in a different place.
The only thing mitigating that for me a little is that I am currently backing up to idrive also, which I actually consider my primary backup location because its raided and managed in the cloud by them much better then I do mine hahah. The local backup is just a convenience to avoid download times from idrive...though I have 1gbit and last night I downloaded 1.2TB overnight, not a big deal. and I will also start doing a lot of my Mac and pc backups to a backup server also, with snapshots there.
Dewdman42 - if you are using the local-to-local backup, then it would be better to switch to rsync, and use 127.0.0.1 as the destination. Now you are using cp.
Yep copy that. cp might have some benefits I'm not sure probably a bit faster then rsync in any case, but I'm not sure its incremental? might be permissions more precise I don't know. I guess that would be some built in hidden functionality of fvbackup to handle differential backups if at all, so... whereas with rsync I can be more precise about the options I want to use, including verification. And whatever I setup will transition to a remote backup server when I have one ready.
Personally I think using the old Ultra 2 for backup is better than using a USB drive.
for sure. Maybe I'll see if I can find that 2gb memory for the Ultra2Plus. After all its not much bigger then a typical USB external enclosure.
But like I said, I am just holding myself back every day looking into 2025 NAS and have my eyes on maybe a high end one, the Minisforum N5Pro, which besides having 5 bays, ECC, ryzen9!, m.2 slots, etc, etc, etc..it can run just about any OS, which means I can just put FreeBSD on there, my preference, or Truenas if I have to. ZFS probably. well a machine like that would serve other home server duties for me as well, easily able to handle hypervisor windows VM's and it even has support for AI stuff, which I don't even know if I need, has a decent GPU for plex transcoding and on and on. Built out with RAM it's gonna be getting close to $1500 without storage though...so I am just kind of putting it off and maybe stretch out Readynas another year or two because truthfully I don't need that much performance, but I do want ECC.
The NAS landscape is changing very fast and getting kind of exciting now that there are numerous solutions that can be operated without any proprietary software if desired. Personally I think synology's days are numbered if they don't reset and reposition. Truthfully I'd rather move to a more simple NAS that just handles NAS duties and then use a mini pc for a home server if I want that. But these days an awful lot of the lower and mid level NAS don't support ECC memory! Synology do, but you're locked into their stuff. power consumption and heat is also a consideration. So I'd prefer more of a mid level CPU, but with ECC, in 4 bays, 5 would be a bonus. Don't need 6. I'm rambling, but the point is this is why I'm kind of putting it off waiting for just exactly the right unit to resonate with me and using my 524x until such time, after which it will become my backup server. But my next NAS I definitely want to be absolutely sure it's not locked into any proprietary stuff of any kind. Fully able to boot up windows, linux, freebsd, unraid, truenas or whatever like a good PC and then I will use it for many years to come in some capacity or another.
- StephenBSep 02, 2025Guru - Experienced User
Dewdman42 wrote:
but in the end I would need to find at the very least another Linux system to plug it into
Normally I recommend NTFS formatting when using USB backup, since that can be read on both PCs and Macs. I realize that is not the direction you are headed of course. But you will have to take your formatting into account when restoring data to a new platform when the NAS eventually fails.
There are three drawbacks I see with USB drives-
- The drives are low cost, since people buy largely on price. As a result, they are not as reliable - and often SMR, so they often have slow sustained write performance. So I think it's better to use a NAS-purposed or enterprise drive in an enclosure.
- Since the drive is electrically connected directly to the NAS, a power surge can fry both the internal and external drives. That said, a nearby lightning strike can also fry all your electronics, even if you use UPS. The best way to deal with physical threats (fire, flood, lightning, theft) is to maintain an offsite backup.
- Any malware compromising the NAS OS would infect any connected external drives at the same time it infects the internal volume.
I don't use USB backup myself - my backup plan is a combination of NAS->NAS and cloud. The backup NAS are on power schedules, so only powered up when the backups were running or when a maintenance task is underway. Logs are uploaded to the main NAS, so I can review them easily. (Getting all this to work required some mods to ReadyNAS scripts).
I suggested above that switching to the Ultra for backup was IMO a better option than USB for you. If you do that, I suggest disabling AFP, FTP, NFS, and SMB protocols on the Ultra to slow the spread of any malware attack to the backup volume.
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